RYVYL Inc., a company specializing in financial technology solutions, has reported its second quarter earnings for 2024. The company's total revenue met expectations, with a notable 134% increase in international segment revenue growth year-over-year.
Despite a revenue decrease in North America due to lower processing volumes, RYVYL is confident in its European operations, RYVYL EU, which are anticipated to be the primary revenue driver for the year.
The company has successfully integrated Visa (NYSE:V) Direct and expanded its Visa partnership, while also collaborating with ACI Worldwide (NASDAQ:ACIW) to enhance transaction processing and security. RYVYL's new product offerings, including NanoKard and RYVYL Fabric, demonstrate its commitment to innovation. The company projects a total revenue for 2024 to be between $65 million and $70 million, with profitability expected in the fourth quarter.
Key Takeaways
- RYVYL's international revenue soared by 134% compared to Q2 2023.
- Visa Direct integration is now live in five countries, with further expansions planned.
- RYVYL EU is projected to be the largest revenue contributor in 2024.
- The company's Banking-as-a-Service offering has spurred customer and transaction volume growth.
- Adjusted EBITDA was negative $1.6 million, with a recovery expected in North America by Q4.
- RYVYL anticipates processing volumes to exceed $4 billion in 2024.
Company Outlook
- Revenue recovery in North America is expected to be delayed by two quarters.
- RYVYL is focusing on cost reduction in the US while maximizing cash flow in Europe.
- The company sees potential growth in PayFac-as-a-Service, real-time payments, and crypto-related services.
- RYVYL is deploying Visa infrastructure in Europe, which is crucial for its growth strategy.
Bearish Highlights
- Revenue in North America declined by $1.6 million to $7.2 million year-over-year due to decreased processing volumes.
- Gross margin slightly decreased to 39.9% from 41.2% due to a shift in the product mix.
- Operating expenses included non-cash charges for goodwill impairment, restructuring costs, and employee severance.
Bullish Highlights
- Processing volumes in Europe reached $1.055 billion in Q2.
- Operating expenses, excluding non-cash charges, were lower by $2.3 million.
- The company has a strong pipeline of business and technological deployments in Europe.
Misses
- Adjusted EBITDA for Q2 2024 was negative at $1.6 million.
- Revenue for Q2 2024 decreased compared to the same period in 2023.
Q&A Highlights
- RYVYL discussed challenges in going live on the banking and partner side but remains confident in recovery.
- The company holds an exclusive license in the retail space and is considering expansion once B2B regulatory support improves.
- RYVYL is preparing for potential changes in the US economy and digital currency regulations.
- Fredi Nisan highlighted the development of Coyni, a closed-loop system for high-risk customers, now fully licensed as a crypto exchange in Europe.
RYVYL Inc. has shown a strong performance in its international operations, particularly in Europe, which is expected to offset the temporary decline in North American revenue. The company's strategic partnerships and product innovations are set to drive growth, and its focus on cost control and cash flow maximization are integral to achieving profitability by the end of the year. Despite some challenges, RYVYL's outlook for 2024 remains optimistic, with a robust business pipeline and strategic deployments in the European market.
InvestingPro Insights
RYVYL Inc.'s recent earnings report, highlighting a surge in international revenue and strategic partnerships, has been a focal point for investors. To provide further context, let's delve into some key data and tips from InvestingPro that could shed light on the company's financial health and stock performance.
InvestingPro Data shows a significant revenue growth of 78.42% over the last twelve months as of Q1 2024, indicating a strong upward trajectory for RYVYL Inc. This aligns with the company's reported international segment revenue increase and supports their optimistic outlook for the year. However, the company's market capitalization stands at a modest $11.77 million, suggesting that it is still a relatively small player in the fintech industry.
On the profitability front, RYVYL Inc. is not expected to be profitable this year, with an adjusted P/E ratio for the last twelve months as of Q1 2024 at -0.5. This is corroborated by an InvestingPro Tip that notes the company has not been profitable over the last twelve months. Investors should keep this in mind when considering the company's projections for profitability in Q4 2024.
Despite the challenges, RYVYL Inc. has experienced a strong return over the last three months, with a 33.75% price total return. This could be indicative of growing investor confidence in the company's European operations and product offerings. It's important to note that the stock has been quite volatile, as highlighted by two InvestingPro Tips emphasizing its high price volatility and significant price fluctuations over various timeframes.
For investors seeking more detailed analysis and additional insights, InvestingPro offers a comprehensive list of tips that can help in making informed investment decisions. As of now, there are 9 additional InvestingPro Tips available for RYVYL Inc. at https://www.investing.com/pro/RVYL.
In summary, RYVYL Inc.'s stock performance and financial metrics present a mixed picture. While revenue growth is strong, profitability remains a challenge. The company's focus on European markets and product innovation may pave the way for future success, but investors should be mindful of the stock's volatility and the road ahead to profitability.
Full transcript - Ryvyl Inc (RVYL) Q2 2024:
Operator: Good afternoon, everyone and welcome to RYVYL Inc's Second Quarter 2024 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow management’s remarks. The second quarter end results press release accompanying this conference call was issued at the close of the market today. Our quarterly report on Form-10Q, which includes the company's results of operations ended June 30, 2024 was filed with the SEC today. A replay of this call is available at the Investor Relations section of the RYVYL website in the Events/Quarterly Results session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's call contains certain forward-looking statements from our management concerning future events. These forward-looking statements are based on the company's current beliefs, assumptions and expectations regarding future events which in turn are based on information currently available to the company and contain projections of future results of operations or financial condition or state other forward-looking information. By their nature, forward-looking statements address matters that are subject to risks and uncertainties. A variety of factors could cause actual events and results to differ materially from those expressed in or contemplated by the forward-looking statements. Other risk factors affecting the company are discussed in detail in the company's filings with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise except to the extent required by applicable laws. I will now hand the call over to Ben Errez, Chairman of Ryvyl. Please go ahead.
Ben Errez: Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us today. In the second quarter of 2024, total revenue was in line with our expectations bolstered by 134% revenue growth in International compared to the second quarter of 2023. I'll review our efforts to continue to expand our European operations to RYVYL EU, address banking changes in North America launched new licensing arrangements and broaden our technology applications as well as other product developments. Our Chief Executive Officer, Fredi Nisan will discuss product initiatives and operations; and our Chief Financial Officer, George Oliva will discuss our financials. RYVYL EU continues to deliver strong growth and we expect it will be the largest generator of revenue in 2024. In fact to ensure rapid onboarding of our EU customers, we've been leveraging US resources. Our International Banking-as-a-Service offering led to an increase in customers as well as an increase in international transaction volume growth which increased from $665 million in the first quarter of 2024 to $781 million in the second quarter of 2024. Our Banking-as-a-Service offering includes API integration and foreign exchange and real-time electronic fund or direct deposits which deliver benefits to our customers by ensuring compliance and streamlining operations. This offering continues to gain traction with customers and we believe offers us the opportunity for long-term growth potential. We completed our first Visa Direct integration in the first quarter and are now live in five countries out of a total of 80. And in acquiring we are processing in 150 countries with additional integrations planned for the third quarter. This initiative delivers Visa Direct's network capabilities for our customers, fortifies our revenue growth and proves our capabilities to Visa. Building upon this connection, we've expanded our partnership and are implementing the Visa payment enabler network. This new platform will provide the infrastructure and services to facilitate electronic payments and financial transactions and leverages Visa's global acceptance enabling various entities including banks, merchants and consumers to perform secure and efficient financial transactions using Visa's widespread payment system. Our collaboration with ACI worldwide is also contributing to recent growth internationally. We fully completed this integration in July. Now active, we are offering enhanced transaction processing and security features. Coyni our payment software that makes PayPal (NASDAQ:PYPL) and other services available is being deployed exclusively across Europe in coordination with our partner First Data allowing us to operate as a payment facilitator. Our momentum in the EU has been strong over the past several quarters and we've built a well-defined pipeline of opportunities to further fuel growth in this region. In the US to drive growth, we strengthened our corporate structure furthered our expansion into new verticals and launched private and white label licensing. As discussed in the first quarter, changes in US banking regulations impacted one niche industry customer base, as it had been a significant contributor. Our North American revenue was affected, which continued into the second quarter. We have been implementing a multilayered strategy to address this situation, which we believe is largely behind us. We began by rightsizing our US operations to better align with lower processing volumes. We strengthened our leadership in the US hiring fintech experts. As Managing Director of Northeast Merchant Systems and VP of Compliance, both newly created roles as well as a new VP of Revenue, we have been building more vertical market opportunities. We expanded a long-standing successful US banking relationship that served low and moderate risk verticals, to include high-risk processing that carries higher margins. We have embedded our proprietary technology into our Northeast Merchant Systems' score offering that we call NEMS score to focus on PayFac-as-a-Service and merchant service operation. This effort aims to expand our customer base and increase business retention to leverage our technology. We are pursuing both private and white label licensing opportunities. Private labeling enables our partners to use their own banks, which increases our access to customers and we believe reduces regulatory challenges for us, while improving our operating leverage. White labeling delivers customized branding to our partner, while we retain the transaction processing. As announced last week, we licensed the legacy high-risk business to a third-party partner through private labeling, which uses our core technology to create revenue streams via QuickCard private label Payment-Processing-as-a-Service. While our per transaction fees under its private label structure, will be lower than those based on processing volume we will eliminate operating costs and expect to achieve higher gross margins and reduce operational risk. We are in the final stages of implementation, and expect to start transactions in the fourth quarter. I'll take a moment to elaborate on the details of this agreement, which are illustrative of future opportunities. We will provide a fully branded implementation and hosting of the consumer e-wallet software and mobile app along with our Merchant Management System, as well as a website landing page assistance with merchant applications and other ancillary support. We will also handle the deployment and maintenance of the RYVYL Payment-Processing-as-a-Service and its interface and collaborate on the system integration, and any add-on work that our partner will manage implementation and ongoing operations of the point of banking system procure and manage its own ACH solution for consumer purchases on the platform and collaborate on systems integration. They will establish and operate banking connectivity for settlements to their merchants recruit, and grow the merchant business portfolio, and ensure timely payment obligations and audit rights of all overrides to RYVYL. Additional product offerings include NanoKard and RYVYL Fabric, which were introduced in August. I will now hand the call over to our CEO, Fredi Nisan who will discuss our product initiatives and operations. Ferdi, please go ahead.
Fredi Nisan: Thank you, Ben. We pride ourselves on delivering innovative technology and solutions for our customers and our latest product releases build on our proprietary capabilities, with enhanced functionality and features for our clients. Additionally, we incorporated our latest Generation four RYVYL software into all our solutions, exclusively. RYVYL Generation four software is our backbone technology and offers highly customizable, advanced, and efficient fintech payment solutions, to businesses and merchants. Our NanoKard app offers users and alternatives, to cash or charge cards, and we deliver merchants processing capabilities for these prepaid gift cards. By targeting select verticals for these gifts of convenience and security, we are bringing online a new product for high margin processing. RYVYL Fabric is an innovative and cost effective solution that offers tools and building blocks to ensure easy blockchain access, with multilayer security that is compatible with both R3's Corda and its Hyperledger. RYVYL's Fabric software layer enables customers to implement blockchain at a faster pace due to low-cost pay-per-API structure. Our partnership with R3 expands our reach for Enterprise Distributed Ledger Technology and Services in regulated industries, where trust is critical. Turning to operations. During the second quarter, several significant achievements highlighted our commitment to innovation, growth and expansion in key markets. We expanded PayFac-as-a-Service, which has been instrumental in broadening and growing our merchant base. Notably, we revamped our banking system software in Europe to improve efficiencies and create more revenue streams. Additionally, as Ben mentioned, we added new verticals in both Europe and the US to further diversify our market presence. We expect these key strategic initiatives to broaden our verticals lower overhead and reduce certain risks yet they will change our financial model. As licensing increases, as part of the revenue mix, processing volumes and associated revenue are expected to be lower. However, gross margins are expected to be higher as licensing will earn transactional fees. Going forward, we will track the number of transactions with strong business relationships, emerging private and white label licensing partnerships, our proprietary RYVYL technology as well as new products coming online. We are extremely excited about our growth prospects in the second half of 2024 and momentum leading into 2025. We have good visibility into our pipeline and are well positioned to further diversify our customer base and revenue streams. With that, I'll now hand the call to George Oliva, our CFO, who will review the financial results and provide an update for our 2024 financial guidance.
George Oliva: Thank you, Fredi. I'll review our second quarter of 2024 financial performance. Processing volumes across all channels reached a total of $1.055 billion, exceeding our guidance and 6% higher than the first quarter of 2024 and 55% higher than the second quarter of 2023. The growth in volumes is being driven by our banking business in Europe Banking-as-a-Service and ACH payments. These have a lower residual rate than processing for acquiring business but has very low cost of revenues and therefore, contributes to higher overall blended gross margins. International processing volumes were $902 million and North America processing volumes were $153 million reflecting, as Ben discussed, the growth in the EU partially offset by the subdued merchant activity in the US. Revenue in the second quarter of 2024 was $11.9 million compared to $14.8 million in the second quarter of 2023. International revenue increased 134% to $8.9 million for the second quarter of 2024 compared to the second quarter 2023. Cost of revenue decreased $1.6 million to $7.2 million for the second quarter of 2024 compared to $8.7 million in second quarter 2023 due to decreased processing volumes of acquiring in North America. Gross margin in the second quarter 2024 was 39.9% versus 41.2% in the second quarter 2023, reflecting the shift in product mix. Operating expenses in the second quarter of 2024 were $15.6 million, including $8.3 million of mostly non-cash charges for goodwill impairment, restructuring costs and employee severance. This compares to $9.6 million in operating expenses in the second quarter of 2023. Excluding the non-recurring charges, operating expenses were lower by $2.3 million primarily consisting of $1.3 million in lower professional fees and $700,000 in lower G&A costs. Other expense totaled $800,000 in the second quarter 2024 and mostly related to debt discount accretion compared to $8.5 million in the second quarter of 2023, of which $5.0 million was related to debt interest, debt discount accretion and changes in fair value of the derivative liability. Adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter of 2024 was negative $1.6 million compared to $900,000 in the second quarter of 2023. We are carefully managing our working capital. Continuing to leverage our strong growth in the EU during the second quarter 2024, we repatriated $2.5 million from Europe to shore up the US capital resources. At the Corporate level, as of June 30, 2024, cash and restricted cash balance was $75.2 million. Unrestricted cash was $6.4 million and net working capital was slightly negative. During the second quarter of 2024, $200,000 of debt and $875,000 of preferred stock was retired as our investor converted these securities into approximately 736,000 shares of common stock. Turning to guidance. We continue to anticipate processing volumes to grow year-over-year to over $4 billion in 2024. However, as discussed several factors are impacting the timing of revenue. As such we believe our revenue recovery in North America may be prolonged by two quarters. Now we expect 2024 total revenue to be in the range of $65 million to $70 million. Specifically we project third quarter revenue to grow sequentially and be in the range of $14 million to $15 million and Q4 to be very strong with accelerating momentum into early 2025. We believe that any growth in revenue will largely be driven by our International segment, which we expect will comprise the largest portion of revenue in 2024. We expect to achieve adjusted EBITDA profitability in Q4 2024. I'll now hand the call back over to Ben for some final remarks before Q&A. In conclusion, RYVYL remains a dynamic company in a dynamic industry. We made the right adjustments in the first and second quarters of this year as one niche industry customer-based market in the US experienced regulatory issues that impacted our business. We are now poised to rebuild that market via a white label partner and believe these transitory issues in the US are largely behind us. Europe has not slowed down at all and continues to deliver ongoing growth and strong execution. We expect renewed sequential growth in the third and fourth quarters of 2024 positioning us for further growth in 2025. Before we go to the Q&A session, I want to mention some upcoming conferences we will be attending. We'll be at the H.C. Wainwright Conference in New York City September 9th to 11th and at the LD Micro Main Event in Los Angeles on October 28th to 30th. Before we open the call to analysts, there are several questions we received in advance of the call that we will address.
A - Ben Errez: So here are some of the questions that we received prior to this call. First question will go to both George and Fredi George will open. Fredi will continue. The question is what are the areas in which you are focused to reach profitability? George please begin.
George Oliva: Well, we focused on reducing costs in the US primarily with a reduction in payroll headcount, approximately 25%. Due to severance and vacation payouts and such, we should start to see the benefit of the reduced head count in the second half of the year. We also have been controlling discretionary costs in the US, and we are maximizing cash flow in Europe and repatriating cash to cover the deficit in the US. That's basically what we're doing in the short term.
Fredi Nisan: Thank you George, and thank you everybody for listening in. As George mentioned, we did a lot of adjustment in the past and now and moving forward into the future. As a company, our focus is on the two areas -- that we separated in two areas. One area will be the licensing. We see huge opportunity in the PayFac-as-a-Service, the Banking-as-a-Service. And the other area is directly working with our partner ISOs and banking to drive direct traffic onto our platforms as this is a higher margin when we have direct compared to licensing. But on the licensing side, we see a huge, huge opportunity due to regulatory change in different verticals and we see the demand for compliance KYC, ledgering services and other banking related services like for example; FX bank, accounts card issuing to support the ongoing change in the financial segment. And we are very, very excited about it.
Ben Errez: All right. Fredi, will continue with the next question. Can you provide some color on trends in verticals? And what you believe are or will be, the most attractive opportunities in the coming year?
Fredi Nisan: Thank you, Ben. That's actually a great question. The financial market working with Visa, Mastercard (NYSE:MA), working with other vendors and based on their movement, and how they perceive the future, and how we perceive the future is in three areas that's going to be in huge demand. One is the faster way of what we call a real-time payment. We see a huge, huge demand in it, when it comes to instant payment. People looking and partner in our businesses, looking for real-time payment 24/7. And I believe that's something that we're going to see more of in the near future. Second, is the settlement globally, international settlement, we see huge demand especially working with Visa on our new Visa Direct. We see huge demand in South America, Asia; and especially US to Europe, we see huge, huge demand. And the last one, and I'm sure that is not a surprise, but as the financial systems are changing, crypto become a huge demand. And we are looking into that in Europe to certain partnership and to see how to overcome the demand of crypto. And that's something, we will see grow in the upcoming years and we are very, very excited about it. Those are the areas. And the second side -- and the other side of that trend is, licensing marketplaces that looking for technology and services. Their own clients in this compliance and regulatory environment. And we believe that our software technology can help facilitate and accelerate the execution or the Go Live for a lot of companies and partners in this space.
Ben Errez: Thanks, Fredi. The next question pertains to our growth in Europe. Why is Europe doing so well? As this is going to be the major growth driver in the balance of the year, can you elaborate on your strategy and operations there? What gives you the confidence in your financial projections?
Fredi Nisan: Thank you, Ben. Another great question. We're working really hard in the last 2.5 years, since we purchased the entity implementing, a lot of the infrastructure that's needed. Europe is changing as well. And we implemented a lot of partnerships including Visa, ACI and other to offer our PayFac-as-a-Service business, Banking-as-a-Service. And Europe have a huge, huge demand for high risk. We as a company register with Visa Mastercard as a high risk provider, and we see a huge, huge growth in the gaming, adult and crypto business. And those are three verticals that are being scrutinized right now, by a lot of banks that don't want to touch it. But we have welcomed this business and we have the full support of Visa and Mastercard, and other banks to onboard such vertical and we are very excited to support them and that's why we see a huge growth in our portfolio.
Ben Errez: Thanks, Fredi. All right. We're going to give George, an opportunity to answer the next question. George, what are the data science points that you track and monitor to manage the health of the business?
George Oliva: Well, historically, the revenues were coming from acquiring from processing credit card payments. We looked at the transaction volume as a primary driver to revenue. As the mix between the US and Europe shifted, and as we ramp up volumes in banking, then we have to drill down and look at residual rates of the different segments. Historically, in acquiring, we had 2% revenue for processing volume. The mix changes the banking has a lower residual rate and there's different gross margins in segments. So, we look at -- so as the business mix shifts, we have to drill down and look at the residual rates of the different verticals at the different types of revenue between acquiring and banking and we look at the gross margin in each and then predict the change in mix and that helps us to forecast results. So, that's what I'm looking at is all this data.
Ben Errez: Thanks George. Operator, at this point, we'll open it up for questions from the floor. Please proceed.
Operator: Yes sir. [Operator Instructions] And our first question today comes from Kevin Dede at H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.
Kevin Dede: Good afternoon, gents. Thanks for having me on the call.
Ben Errez: Hello Kevin.
Kevin Dede: So, help me understand what's happening in the U.S. exactly and how you feel you're getting your arms around it?
Ben Errez: Okay Fredi take it away.
Fredi Nisan: Hey good afternoon. Thank you for the question as always. In the U.S. due to certain regulations and compliance, we as a company decided to license the technology to an entity that have the infrastructure and doing it for many years to utilize our technology to run the business faster easier in more compliance way and reduce certain burdens from our side. We decided to do that because of the challenges that exist and the instability that we see moving forward if we stay in that vertical. For those reasons, we decided to license. We maybe make less money on it, but it will be stable and we can rely on that revenue for a longer time, less the burden of compliance regulatory environment changes that may occur moving forward. And that recovery takes a little bit longer due to some challenges in going live on the banking side, on the partner side. But other than that I think we're on track to recover in this vertical, in this niche.
Kevin Dede: So, Fredi, do you think that licensing agreement is exclusive? Or is there an opportunity for you to offer it to other players to capitalize more on transaction services and processing in North America?
Fredi Nisan: This license was issued to our partner only in the retail environment, only in the current present -- or what current present environment. The moment the regulatory environment change to offer a little bit more support to the B2B, we will look into -- if we want to run it as a company for example or are we want to give it to our licensed holder to do so. We have enough verticals. We support this specific vertical. It requires extra time and effort in the compliance and regulatory environment. But at the moment, it's an exclusive license in the retail space. It's more on the retail and e-commerce.
Ben Errez: Hey Kevin. I'll work here on this. So, obviously, we are in election year and depending on the administration we end up with, the handling of our economy, our digital currency, our blockchain stance, and a lot of other variables that impact our business may be dramatically different. And it's prudent for the company to set itself up for success regardless of who ends up in the White House. So, as such we put emphasis and focus on our European operations and we push forward as quickly as we can on these fronts in parallel to maintaining our position with the U.S.
Kevin Dede: Okay, Ben. It seems that the European business just reflects a lower residual rate. Is it fair to assume that will be consistent going forward?
Ben Errez: I'll let George take that.
George Oliva: Yes. I mean, it's a function of a blend between the banking and the acquiring over there. So the banking has a lower residual rate, but it also has a lower processing costs in the high margin. So, we'll have to look at it separately to be able to understand it, but the blended residual rate has come down to about 1%.
Kevin Dede: Why are you -- I know another question addressed this, but maybe you could add a little more color on, how you see the growth in Europe and your confidence in the $65 million to $70 million that you've offered this year?
George Oliva: Well, that includes a tremendous growth in Q4. We have applications -- we have pipeline of business to onboard. And it's not a slam dunk. They're going to have to execute to hit those numbers. But whether -- whenever the ramp finally hits, I mean we're going to start 2025 very strongly. Hopefully we hit the number in Q4. But if we're a little bit late, we're still building a huge momentum into 2025. So I feel pretty good about everything that's going on.
Kevin Dede: George, can you talk to the visibility that you have with Visa? I know, that program is still sort of ramping up. Maybe you can give us some insight on that?
Fredi Nisan: I will take that Kevin. As you know or maybe not, but Visa is a brand new product. Only a few companies in Europe have access. We are one of them. And Visa are deploying their infrastructure very slowly to make sure everything works. We're working with them in their pace. We already deployed five countries and we're deploying about -- we're trying to deploy about a country every couple of weeks, but it's really -- we are in the mercy of Visa as they are deploying this brand new infrastructure. This infrastructure is available as I mentioned Kevin only for a few companies. And they really testing every aspect of it how money moves, how the banking reacts to all of it. But we see a huge demand for that already, especially in Colombia, Romania, Canada; huge, huge demand for Visa services. And Visa fully aware of that as we are in communication with them on a weekly basis. And I don't know if you saw on our posts that Visa just took our management team to Paris to the Olympic. We have great relationship with Visa and we're working hand-in-hand to make sure that this infrastructure is being deployed as quick as possible.
Kevin Dede: Okay. Thanks, Fredi. I'll turn the floor over.
Fredi Nisan: Thank you, Kevin.
Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Howard Halpern with Taglich Brothers. Please go ahead.
Howard Halpern: Good afternoon gentlemen. I guess going back a little bit in history and it maybe ties in with your high-risk opportunities. But what have you learned about the closed loop system? And how does coyni play a role in that in developing that type of program for high-risk customers?
Fredi Nisan: Hey, how are you? Good to hear from you again.
Howard Halpern: Okay. Yes.
Fredi Nisan: This is Fredi this is a great question. Coyni started as a stable coin and was with the focus on make that software or that platform available in a closed loop for high risk. In the U.S. due to changes in compliance and as you know banking and crypto, they tried to stay away. We rebranded that coyni U.S. to what we call NEMS score. We're going to use that post loop in the payment environment to offer more services. But we took the coyni platform and deployed in Europe. We are fully licensed in Europe as the crypto exchange or crypto-licensed, let's call it, to be able to hold what they call tokens of crypto. In our case, it's coyni. And due to some changes now called MiCA regulation in Europe that's related to stable coin or cryptocurrency, we are implementing those. But the goal and what we see is in a closed loop environment is easier to onboard on and off ramp money, because it is more secure visible to the government visible to the bodies that oversee certain aspects of that. That's why they changed what they call MiCA regulation. It's more visibility into the ecosystem. And we believe that that structure will be adopting many, many use cases in the financial structure, including JPMorgan just released their coin and other banks and institutions will do similar things to have a better risk oversight, and of course, compliance oversight on the ecosystem.
Howard Halpern: Okay. Well that sounds good. Interesting. And what are your opportunities in South America and what are the regulations like I guess compared to Europe and the U.S.?
Fredi Nisan: Each country has their own structure and limitation, but using the Visa network, Visa is doing the heavy-lift. Visa is the body that work with the regulation and the regulatory bodies in each country. Visa is working on with us to deploy in 80 countries, and they are the body that was assigned by the government or by the banking regulatory bodies in each country to basically oversee the compliance and the structure and how money moves, and AML policy, BSA policies. And that's why they allow money to move that quick, because Visa took the responsibility for that. And I think if you go directly to each country you will face a lot of scrutiny and a lot of difficulties to operate in those countries.
Howard Halpern: Okay. All that sounds great. Looking forward to the next couple quarters. Thanks guys. Thanks all of you.
Fredi Nisan: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn it back over to the company for any final remarks.
Ben Errez: Well, we thank everybody for listening into this conversation. We look forward to an even better quarter in three months' time. Thanks everybody and have a pleasant day.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful evening.
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