SolarWinds Corporation (NYSE: NYSE:SWI), a leading provider of powerful and affordable IT management software, has reported a robust financial performance for the second quarter of 2024, surpassing its guidance with significant growth in subscription revenue and annual recurring revenue (ARR).
The company's focus on subscription-based offerings and product innovation, particularly in observability solutions, has positioned it well to manage hybrid and multi-cloud environments for customers. As SolarWinds continues to execute its strategy, it remains on track to meet its 2024 priorities, which include expanding profitability, focusing on subscription and ARR growth, and creating value for shareholders.
Key Takeaways
- Subscription revenue grew by 31% year-over-year, while subscription ARR increased by 36%.
- Customer retention rates are strong with a maintenance renewal rate of 97%.
- SolarWinds surpassed $700 million in total ARR.
- The company reported double-digit adjusted EBITDA growth and a successful debt refinancing, reducing interest rates.
- Q3 guidance includes total revenue of $191 to $196 million and adjusted EBITDA of $90 to $93 million.
- Full-year revenue guidance is projected between $778 to $788 million, with non-GAAP diluted earnings per share expected to be $1.4 to $1.8.
Company Outlook
- SolarWinds anticipates total revenue in the range of $191 to $196 million for Q3 and $778 to $788 million for the full year.
- Adjusted EBITDA for Q3 is projected to be between $90 to $93 million, contributing to the full-year projection of $368 to $375 million.
- The company expects non-GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.24 to $0.26 for Q3 and $1.4 to $1.8 for the full year.
Bearish Highlights
- Maintenance revenue decreased by 5% in Q2 due to the transition of customers to the Hybrid Cloud Observability product.
- License revenue declined by 17% from the previous year, attributed to the focus on a subscription-first strategy.
Bullish Highlights
- The company's subscription first strategy has led to an increase in subscription revenue.
- Strong non-GAAP profitability was reported, with adjusted EBITDA of $92.5 million exceeding expectations.
- The net leverage ratio increased due to a special dividend and refinancing of a term loan, indicating a strategic financial move.
Misses
- Despite a 4% growth in the first half of the year, the company's guidance for the next quarter is only 2% growth, reflecting a conservative projection.
Q&A Highlights
- CEO Sudhakar Ramakrishna emphasized the company's cautious approach to guidance, aligning it with performance.
- CFO Bart Kalsu highlighted the focus on balancing growth and profitability, maintaining mid-40s EBITDA margins, and evaluating investment opportunities based on various factors including macro conditions and sustainability.
- The growth in subscription ARR was attributed to the company's focus on delivering better value through their products and transitioning to a subscription model.
- The company expressed confidence in their guidance and the value their products provide to customers.
In conclusion, SolarWinds' second-quarter earnings call highlighted the company's successful financial performance and strategic focus on subscription revenue growth and product innovation. The company's robust customer retention and ARR growth underscore its strong market position, while its conservative guidance for the next quarter reflects a cautious yet confident outlook.
InvestingPro Insights
SolarWinds Corporation's (NYSE: SWI) latest financial performance and strategic initiatives in the second quarter of 2024 are complemented by key metrics that provide further insights into the company's valuation and profitability. With a market capitalization of $1.88 billion, the company showcases a commitment to growth and shareholder value. Here are some noteworthy data points from InvestingPro that shed light on SolarWinds' financial health and market performance:
- The company's Price-to-Earnings (P/E) ratio stands at 90.05, indicating a premium valuation compared to the market average. However, when adjusted for the last twelve months as of Q2 2024, the P/E ratio becomes more favorable at 53.49, suggesting improved earnings over time.
- SolarWinds' PEG ratio, which measures the stock's valuation while taking into account earnings growth, is at 0.77 for the last twelve months as of Q2 2024. This figure points to the potential for the stock to be undervalued considering its growth prospects.
- The company's strong gross profit margin of 90.53% in the same period highlights its ability to maintain profitability despite costs.
InvestingPro Tips for SolarWinds suggest that investors should consider the company's robust gross profit margin as an indicator of efficient operations and potential for reinvestment in growth opportunities. Additionally, with a fair value estimation by analysts at $13 and InvestingPro's fair value at $15.31, there appears to be room for upside potential in the stock price.
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Full transcript - Solarwinds Inc (SWI) Q2 2024:
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Alex and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the SolarWinds 2024 Second Quarter Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to you Tim Karaca, Group Vice President, Finance. Please go ahead.
Tim Karaca: Thank you. Good morning everyone and welcome to the SolarWinds second quarter 2024 earnings call. With me today are Sudhakar Ramakrishna, our President and CEO; and Bart Kalsu, our CFO. Following our prepared remarks, we will have a question-and-answer session. This call is being simultaneously webcast on our investor relations website at investors.solarwinds.com. You can also find our earnings press release and the summary slide deck, which is intended to supplement our prepared remarks during today's call. Please remember that certain statements made during this call are forward-looking statements, including those concerning our financial outlook, our market opportunities, our expectations regarding customer retention, our continued evolution to subscription-first mentality, and the timing of the phases of such evolution, our expectations regarding our partner ecosystem, the SEC enforcement action, the impact of the global economic and geopolitical environment on our business, and our gross level of debt. These statements are based on currently available information and assumptions, and we undertake no duty to update this information except as required by law. These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including the numerous risks and uncertainties highlighted in today's earnings release and our filings with the SEC. Copies are available from the SEC on our Investor Relations website. We will discuss various non-GAAP financial measures on today's call. Unless otherwise specified when we refer to financial measures, we will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the differences between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures and the definition of other financial metrics discussed on today's call are available in our earnings press release and summary slide deck on the Investor Relations page of our website. Finally, we note that the financial results discussed on today's call in our earnings release are preliminary and pending final review by us and our external auditors, and will only be final once we file our quarterly report on form 10-Q. With that, I will now turn the call over to Sudhakar.
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Thank you Tim and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us today. As always, I'd like to thank our employees, customers, partners and shareholders for their ongoing commitment to SolarWinds. I'm pleased to report that we delivered another strong quarter once again exceeding our guidance across our key metrics, and building on the momentum we have experienced in the last several quarters. I believe our team's continued focus on customer success and execution has positioned us well for a strong second half of 2024. We believe our performance in a challenging software spending environment demonstrates the compelling value we deliver to customers and the resiliency of our business model. Now turning to business highlights from this quarter. First, our subscription first strategy continued to bear fruit and we are experiencing strong subscription revenue and ARR growth. Second, our customer retention metrics remained robust highlighting the compelling value proposition of our platform. Third, we saw increasing adoption of and traction for our observability solutions. And fourth, we continued with our ongoing product innovation driven by our focus to improve productivity, reduce complexity and improve cost effectiveness for our customers. I will now touch on some of these before turning the call over to Bart for more color on the quarter and our financial outlook for the remainder of the year. In Q2 2024, we delivered total revenue of $193 million above the high end of the guidance range we provided and representing year-over-year growth of 4%. We continued to see success with our subscription first strategy and delivered year-over-year subscription revenue growth of 31% and subscription ARR growth of 36% in the second quarter. Our second quarter in-quarter maintenance renewal rate was 97% and our trailing 12-month maintenance renewal rate was 97%, consistent with last quarter and up from 94% in the same quarter of the prior year. We delivered second quarter total ARR growth of 7% year-over-year passing the $700 million mark in total ARR. We exceeded $100 million in total ARR for our hybrid cloud observability solutions, a significant milestone that is the result of the ongoing conversion of our maintenance base as well as the acquisition of new customers. As I shared last quarter, we believe that tools consolidation, cloud modernization and simplicity are the key driving factors and represents significant incremental future opportunity for us. We recorded double-digit adjusted EBITDA growth of 17% year-over-year and another quarter of achieving the Rule of 50. And finally in July, we refinanced and extended our debt with another 50 basis points of rate reduction which Bart will highlight further. Turning to our product portfolio. We continue to believe that our multifaceted solutions deliver the best time to value, time to detect and time to remediate issues across on-premises, cloud and hybrid environments. We believe that our observability, database performance and service management offerings are the most comprehensive in the industry and help customers reduce costs, while enabling them to accelerate their business transformation. I will now provide some product and solution updates that are aimed at the diverse and changing needs of our customers. We continue to enhance device and node support in our ACO solutions giving us the opportunity to expand our footprint in customers' environments and to help them consolidate their tools further. We enhanced our support for Azure and AWS Cloud and strive to continue to eliminate visibility gaps for our customers, while improving their productivity and reducing their costs. Hybrid observability is a cornerstone of our observability solution. We enhanced the database performance analyzer, helping enterprises, maximize performance and migration of their PostgreSQL databases across on-premises and cloud environments. We continue to further simplify the packaging of our database solutions to give customers the opportunity to experience the full breadth of our solutions. We believe, we can expand our business further with these modifications and we launched our free ITSM maturity model, a purpose built and free tool for enterprises to evaluate and assess their existing ITSM practices. This tool also provides a roadmap for improving operational excellence and service delivery while reducing costs. I have previously described how our AI office is leveraged to reduce alert fatigue and determine root cause analysis to further reduce meantime to detect and remediate issues, and how we are developing tools that in the future will allow us to implement predictive analytics into our observability solution. I'll now touch on AI extensions in our Service Desk solution that we announced in May as well as highlight our AI by design principles that will form a framework guiding our efforts across our portfolio. The ITSM extensions are designed to transform IT operations by improving workflows, accelerating remediation processes from days or hours to minutes using LLM.s and our own proprietary algorithms, our SolarWinds AI is designed to allow a service desk assistant to instantly summarize ticket histories, suggest agent responses and create real-time recommended tests for resolving issues. With the ever evolving nature of artificial intelligence, we knew it was essential that this and all future AI tools we build are carefully architected with security in mind. That is why we introduced our new AI by design principles, an extension of the Secure by Design principles that have guided our approach to security since 2021. These principles, which are privacy and security, accountability and fairness, transparency and trust, simplicity and accessibility are an evolving framework to help customers establish a lasting relationship with AI built on security and productivity. Like Secure by Design, we believe our AI by Design principles should guide our industry as we enter and navigate the future of artificial intelligence. As we passed the halfway point of the year, we are on track to deliver on our 2024 priorities, we provided earlier this year. First, extending our SolarWinds Platform and delivering effective solutions, built to help customers achieve hybrid visibility and to manage their hybrid and multi-cloud environments. Second, investing selectively, while continuing to exercise expense discipline and expanding profitability. Third, focusing on subscription and ARR growth, customer success and retention, growing profitability and cash flow and creating more value for our shareholders. I'm pleased with our execution against these priorities. Our strong foundation is the result of transformation efforts made across all aspects of our business. And I believe that we are set up for continued success in the second half of the year. Before I turn the call over to Bart, I want to acknowledge that this is Bart last SolarWinds Earnings Call. As we announced in June, Bart will be moving on to pursue the next chapter in his career, later this month. Bart has been my partner from the day I joined in this transformational journey. On behalf of all SolarWinds Bart, but I express my heartfelt gratitude to you, for your many contributions and wish you great health and much success in your future endeavors. I want to welcome Lewis Black, who is joining us this month, as our Chief Financial Officer. With over 25 years of experience in finance and operating roles, Lewis's experience in Transforming Technology companies will be crucial for our next phase of growth. Lewis is with me in the room today and looking forward to engaging closely with all of you going forward. With that, I will now turn it over to Bart, to expand on our financial performance and provide a third quarter and full year 2024 outlook. Bart?
Bart Kalsu: Thanks, Sudhakar. It's been a privilege to be a part of SolarWinds over the past 17 years. And we are in great hands with Lewis taking over as the CFO. We had another strong quarter in the second quarter was a continuation of the momentum from the first. We remain confident in our business and financial goals for the remainder of 2024. Despite what continues to be a challenging IT spending environment, we continue to see strong growth in the mix of predictable recurring revenue and have delivered sustained ARR growth. Turning to the numbers, we finished the second quarter with total revenue of $193.3 million, a 4% increase compared to the prior year and above the high end of the outlook for total revenue of $191 million that we provided last quarter. We ended the second quarter with total ARR of $705 million, up 7% year-over-year. Our subscription ARR at the end of the second quarter was $270 million, an increase of 36% year-over-year. This growth continues to be driven by our execution of our subscription first strategy. We had 1,042 customers with over 100,000 of total ARR, representing 16% growth over the prior year. Digging into the revenue details, our second quarter subscription revenue was $70 million, up 31% year-over-year. The increase in subscription revenue continues to reflect the success of our subscription first strategy which includes converting a portion of our maintenance base to our subscription products. Maintenance revenue was $110 million in the second quarter, down 5% compared to the prior year. Such decline was expected, as we continued to convert existing customers to our Hybrid Cloud Observability product. Our maintenance renewal rate is at 97% on a trailing 12 month basis and was 97% for the second quarter. To remind you, as we convert maintenance customers to subscriptions, we exclude those customers from this renewal rate calculation. As a result of the subscription revenue growth and strong maintenance renewal rates, we now have 93% of our total revenue as recurring revenue. For the second quarter, license revenue was $13 million, down 17% from $16 million in the second quarter of 2023. As a reminder, our subscription first focus has affected and will continue to affect our license sales performance. Our focus on operating discipline continues to drive strong results and we delivered another quarter of strong non-GAAP profitability. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $92.5 million growing 17% year-over-year, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 48%. And coming in $4.5 million above the high end of the $88 million outlook we gave for the second quarter. Turning to our balance sheet, our net leverage ratio at June 30th was approximately three times our trailing 12 month adjusted EBITDA. This compares to 2.7 times at the end of the first quarter. The increase is due to the special dividend of $168 million that was declared in the first quarter and paid in April. In July of 2024, we again refinanced our term loan decreasing the interest rate by 50 basis points from SOFR plus 325 to SOFR plus 275. In addition, we extended the maturity to February 2030, which we believe showcases the stability and recurring nature of our business. We will continue to attempt to take advantage of the interest rate environment and look for opportunities to further reduce our variable interest rate as we move forward. We continue to generate strong cash flow with $73.4 million in cash flow from operations in the six months ended June 30th, our cash and cash equivalents and short-term investment balance at quarter end was $169.6 million. Our non-GAAP diluted earnings per share were $0.26 above the guidance range of $0.21 to $0.23 per share. Most of this beat is driven by our improved profitability. I'll now walk you through our outlook before turning it over to Sudhakar for final thoughts. I will start with our third quarter guidance and then discuss our updated outlook for the full year. For the third quarter, we expect total revenue to be in the range of 191 to $196 million, representing 2% growth at the midpoint. Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter is expected to be approximately $90 million to $93 million, representing 8% growth at the midpoint. Non-GAAP fully diluted earnings per share are projected to be $0.24 to $0.26 per share assuming an estimated $173.6 million fully diluted shares outstanding. And finally our outlook for the third quarter assumes a non-GAAP tax rate of 26% and we expect to pay approximately $8 million in cash taxes during the quarter. For the full year, we are raising the revenue guidance and expect total revenue to be in the range of $778 million to $788 million, representing 3% year-over-year growth at the midpoint. We are also raising our adjusted EBITDA for the year, which is now expected to be approximately $368 million to $375 million, representing 13% year-over-year growth at the midpoint. Non-GAAP fully diluted earnings per share are projected to be $1.4 to $1.8 per share assuming an estimated $173.8 million fully diluted shares outstanding. Our full year and third quarter guidance assumes a euro to dollar exchange rate of $1.06 to $1. With that, I'll return the call to Sudhakar for his closing remarks.
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Thank you, Bart. I'm very excited about our progress in the second quarter evidenced by another strong performance on both revenue and adjusted EBITDA. We pride ourselves on delivering against our objectives and our team's execution focus continued to yield results. Secure by Design is the first major initiative, I started a few days after I joined the company in January 2021. Our focus on continuous improvement, transparency and public-private partnerships has been unwavering. Against this backdrop, it is very gratifying for us that Judge Engelmayer largely agreed with our motion to dismiss the SEC's claims, in his order on Thursday July 18th. As we said in our public statement on the order, we look forward to the next stage where we will have the opportunity to present our evidence and to demonstrate, why the remaining claim is factually inaccurate. In the meantime, we continue to focus on our mission to help customers accelerate their business transformation in multi-cloud environment, and remain grateful for the support we have received from so many. Customers are constantly adapting to that rapid growth and innovation in our world and we believe that our purpose of enriching their lives, makes us uniquely qualified to serve them. In a world where budgets are constrained and complexity continues to grow, our solutions empower customers in all stages of their cloud transformations to achieve hybrid visibility and to cost-effectively manage their assets. I'm as confident as ever in our ability to adapt to evolving customer needs, and to continue to deliver compelling value. Our continued focus on customer success has not only helped us beat our stated financial goals, but also increase our revenue and adjusted EBITDA outlook for the year. I'm extremely proud of our team's efforts to deliver customer success. And again, thank our employees, partners, customers and shareholders for their commitment to SolarWinds. Bart and I are now happy to address your questions.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Pinjalim Bora with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Q – Pinjalim Bora: Great. Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the questions and congrats on a good quarter. I wanted to ask you about the macro environment overall, during the quarter seems like there's a lot of conflicting kind of signals that we're getting. But what did you see during the quarter? How was the linearity in the quarter and maybe talk about the pipeline going into Q3 and the second half?
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Pinjalim, thanks for the question and hope you're doing well. From our vantage point, there has not been any meaningful difference in macro from let's say, Q1 to Q2 or in the first half of this year, as in either significant positive progress or any material deterioration. The value prop that our solutions continue to drive for our customers that being improved to consolidation delivering hybrid visibility, and helping them transition to cloud or SaaS at the pace at which they dictate giving them future-proof roadmaps with extensions of AIY design that I described they are all resonating. And as you know we have a very large and very diversified customer base as well. And that's come in very, very handy for us. In terms of pipeline, I would say that we continue to focus on our pipeline generation activities. We are extending our partnerships. I'm sure you are familiar with our Transform partner program and we've been enlisting additional partners and that help us extend our customer reach while continuing to be focused on our expense discipline and met the policies.
Tim Karaca: Yeah. Understood. One question on here by design philosophy that you have. Are we going to see most of these AI capabilities including the one in the service desk in cloud and do we expect that to be a motivation to kind of accelerate migration towards cloud for some of the customers? And maybe a second part to that is how are you monetizing the service desk AI product?
Bart Kalsu: Absolutely up. First thing some pendulum I'll highlight is AI is not restricted only to our service desk product. We had introduced a AIOps concept into our observability platform in the context of lead stacking productivity improvement time to remediate efficiencies and so on. And so that set of principles will permeate through the portfolio. Now with regards to the service management product. The AI capabilities will be in one of our premium tier products which has a higher ASP. And we are already seeing some initial traction around that as to motivation for customers to move to the cloud. The way I look at it is customers our customers already have a choice today of deploying in the cloud, but even the customers that deployed in a self-hosted configuration can leverage our AI capabilities by essentially connecting to the cloud. In other words the entire deployment need not be in the cloud but just the AI extensions can be. And so that's the flexibility that we offer our customers.
Tim Karaca: Understood. Thank you so much.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sholto Patrick. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe first Sudhakar, just growth in the large customers over 100,000 ARR has been very consistent the past several quarters. How big of a driver is the hybrid cloud mobility solution for this cohort? And what does adoption look like here?
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: I didn't get the last part of your question.
Unidentified Analyst: Would be with a larger customer cohort. Just how big of a driver is the hybrid cloud observability solution and what does the adoption look like?
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Got it. First it is a significant driver for not just that cohort, but across the board for the primary reason that I have been highlighting, which is we give the most elegant tools consolidation story for our customers. We give the most elegant hybrid visibility story for our customers, where they can start in a self-hosted fashion and extend into the cloud. And of course, the simplicity of packaging and pricing is extremely appealing to our customers across the board. It does apply more broadly to the larger enterprise customers our larger customers in general, because they tend to have more tools they tend to be a bit more fragmented. And therefore in this environment it's lot more compelling if we can consolidate that too.
Unidentified Analyst: Okay. Very helpful. And then Bart maybe one for you. I guess, first congrats on a successful tenure at SolarWinds and best of luck with your next venture going miss working with you. But looking at the guidance further Q3, particularly, having guidance is just 2% for next quarter after the first half of the year grew 4%. And you'd mentioned that there's been very little change in the macro backdrop. So can you just help bridge that delta there?
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Yes, what I'd say is, it's very consistent with the way we've guided for the first half of the year. We've tried to keep guidance somewhat in line with what our performance is and we tried to be prudent when we provide guidance and we want to give numbers that we feel confident that we can hit.
Unidentified Analyst: Okay, helpful. Thank you, guys.
Operator: That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Mr. Sudhakar for closing remarks.
Tim Karaca: Yes. There are a couple of actually wireless callers. We couldn't get to name and so hands up. Can we check now? I see a number with 4 -- 4276 as the next question.
Miller Jump: Hi. Can you guys hear me?
Tim Karaca: Yes. Who is this? Sorry, we can’t see the name.
Miller Jump: Hi. Yes. Thank you. Yes. This is Miller Jump with Truist Securities.
Tim Karaca: Please go ahead.
Miller Jump: Thank you for taking my question. Thank you. So, yes, thank you for taking my question, and I'll echo my congrats to parts of the work you've done on SolarWinds and on the next step in your career. A question for either of you. EBITDA margins have been remarkably strong. You obviously recently restructured the debt. So, I'm just curious, do you all see any opportunities from here to increase investments to maybe drive growth in either the go-to-market or product sides of the business right now?
Bart Kalsu: Yes, we continue to evaluate our investments opportunities and our focus is on balancing growth and profitability. As I've described in the past several times in fact, our goal is to consistently deliver mid-40s EBITDA margin. And we are, as you highlighted, are meaningfully above that. So as we look at the second half and also into 2025, we continually focus on how do we accelerate our road map, how do we get better efficiencies while scaling our go-to-market as well. So short answer to your question is yes, but this will be weighted against growth prospects, macro conditions, efficiencies and sustainability.
Miller Jump: Got it. That makes sense. And maybe just one more, the subscription ARR sustaining at momentum against sequentially tougher comps now. Just curious if there's anything from the go-to-market side that you're seeing or that you've changed there that you think is driving this uptick in momentum we're seeing this year.
Bart Kalsu: It's a continued focus on the execution of our strategy that we outlined in 2021, which is the subscription first motion. But as I've always described it it's not just a business model transition, it's a value model transition for us. So, our products are delivering better value. Our observability solutions, database solutions, service management solutions continue to be extended to provide better value to customers and it happens that when they procure it they procure it in a subscription arrangement and that's what's driving the growth.
Miller Jump: Appreciate the thoughts. Thanks.
Operator: Question comes from the line of 626-510-3317 with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst: Hi. This is Oscar [indiscernible] from Morgan Stanley on for Sanjit Singh. Thank you for taking my questions. So, my question is around maybe some color on guidance right? We've seen others and software actually cutting guidance. So, maybe what sort of gives you that confidence to actually raise it? And maybe to what extent is that a result of maybe seen stronger than or like maybe an improvement in the pace of maintenance to subscription migration? Thank you.
Bart Kalsu: Yes good question. We've outperformed for the first half of the year as far as the guidance that we gave and there's really nothing in what we're seeing in the macro environment as well as our own internal demand that makes us see things any differently. So, it gives us the confidence to go ahead and raise for the back half of the year. And the good thing for us is a big piece of our bookings comes from existing customers and like Sudhakar talked about it, our customers see the value in our in our products and they see the value in the transformation too both our hybrid cloud observability as well as our SaaS products.
Tim Karaca: Oscar, do you have a question?
Unidentified Analyst: Yes. Yes. I guess the second part of it was to what extent maybe are you seeing an increase in the pace of those migrations? Or is it still going at the same pace that it has theoretically have?
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: For the most part we have been achieving our plans and expanding our market opportunity. So, in terms of accelerating, the approach that we have taken is enabled our partners worldwide now. So the way to think about our conversions is, we started first in North America, then we expanded into EMEA and now on to APJ. So it's more breadth of conversion across all our regions. And we have seen consistent results across geographies and as more partners and modified sales teams make that the primary motion, we expect to see this momentum.
Unidentified Analyst: Got it. Thank you very much.
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Thanks, Oscar.
Operator: All right. So for the next question I believe, we have sent Mr. Sanjit Singh with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Sanjit Singh: Yes, hi. This is Sanjit Singh. Sorry, I was toggling between multiple calls this morning. To follow up on Oscar's question on Bart, when I look at the subscription ARR performance and the total ARR performance, the growth rate to sustain I think it was like 36% subscription ARR totally are growing 7% two quarters in a row. So it seems like sustained growth there. When I look at the subscription revenue, it seems like it's sort of flat lining in sort of 69 million to 70 million range that have been really picking up in terms of like dollars from quarter over quarter in the multiple quarters prior to that. Clearly understand like why subscription revenue sort of flattish in the context of what are clearly great subscription ARR and total ARR growth total?
Bart Kalsu: Yes, good question Sanjit. The reality is in our subscription revenue it comes from a number of different bookings types. So our HCO product is an on-premise subscription. So it has a little bit different rev rec in your SaaS products. And so we talked a lot about us putting our maintenance customers over to subscription. So there's some variability in the rev rec related to that particular product. And so what you're seeing there is Q1 for example, we have our biggest on HCO customer, subscription customer and it results in a big a little bit of a pop in Q1. So we have to overcome that in the second quarter. What we expect to see is some increase in subscription revenue in the back half of the year. And then we'll just continue to build on that momentum.
Sanjit Singh: Understood. That's why we like that.
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Yes, good question sounded too. As far as that's why we talk a lot more about subscription ARR because we think that's the better indicator of the health of the business.
Sanjit Singh: Understood. Thank you.
Operator: That concludes our Q& A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Mr. Sudhakar for closing remarks.
Sudhakar Ramakrishna: Thank you, again for joining us today and thank you again for your support at SolarWinds and appreciate all our customers, partners and shareholders.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
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