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Earnings call: Park-Ohio reports positive Q1 results, eyes growth

EditorEmilio Ghigini
Published 05/01/2024, 05:12 PM
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Park-Ohio Holdings Corp. (NASDAQ:PKOH) has announced a promising start to 2024 with first-quarter revenues reaching $418 million, marking an improvement in both earnings quality and margins. The company's strategic measures, including pricing strategies, restructuring, and the sale of non-core assets, have contributed to these results.

Supply Technologies, a key performer, continues to drive growth, particularly through its contributions to the electric vehicle (EV) market. Park-Ohio's recent acquisition of EMA GmbH is expected to enhance its global induction heating capabilities and positively impact operating margins and earnings per share.

CEO Matthew Crawford and CFO Patrick Fogarty provided insights into the company's operational success and future outlook during the earnings call, expressing confidence in continued annual growth and stable demand across various sectors.

Key Takeaways

  • Park-Ohio reports Q1 revenues of $418 million with improved margins.
  • Supply Technologies and fastener manufacturing group contribute significantly to performance, particularly in the EV market.
  • The acquisition of EMA GmbH aims to strengthen Park-Ohio's induction heating expertise.
  • The company anticipates year-over-year growth and a stable outlook, backed by solid backlogs and strong aerospace and defense volumes.
  • Management is optimistic about maintaining higher margins through a mix of strategies, including pricing initiatives and cost reductions.

Company Outlook

  • Park-Ohio expects annual growth in line with guidance, supported by stable demand and strong aerospace and defense volumes.
  • The company remains open to acquisitions that align with long-term success but does not rely on them to meet goals.

Bearish Highlights

  • The company faces challenges with new equipment orders due to long cycle times and the need for optimization.
  • High turnover and retirements have led to difficult operating and consolidation decisions.
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Bullish Highlights

  • The automotive business is stable with strong backlogs, and the aftermarket business benefits from positive macro trends.
  • Confidence in macro trends, decisions, and backlog underpins a stable outlook for the year.

Misses

  • No specific financial misses were discussed during the call.

Q&A Highlights

  • Management attributes margin improvements to higher-margin business mix, pricing initiatives, and cost reductions.
  • There is an expectation of a 15% flow-through in operating income margins as revenues increase.
  • The company aims to reduce capital intensity, with lower capital expenditures and reduced working capital investment.

In conclusion, Park-Ohio's first quarter of 2024 has set a positive tone for the year, with strategic initiatives paving the way for sustained growth and improved financial health. The leadership team's focus on operational excellence and strategic acquisitions, alongside a commitment to optimizing costs and capital investments, positions the company well for the future.

InvestingPro Insights

Park-Ohio Holdings Corp. (PKOH) has demonstrated a robust start to the year, underpinned by strategic initiatives that have led to improved financial metrics. InvestingPro data provides a deeper look into the company's financial health and performance:

  • The company boasts a market capitalization of approximately $314.65 million, reflecting investor confidence and the scale of its operations.
  • PKOH's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio stands at an adjusted 6.36 for the last twelve months as of Q1 2024, suggesting that the stock may be trading at a low earnings multiple compared to its historical earnings.
  • A dividend yield of 1.96% as of the latest data point indicates Park-Ohio's commitment to providing shareholder returns, having maintained dividend payments for 11 consecutive years.
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InvestingPro Tips highlight that analysts are optimistic about the company's profitability for the year, which aligns with the positive outlook presented by Park-Ohio's management. Additionally, the company's strong performance over the last year, with a 107.72% return, suggests that investors have been rewarded for their confidence in Park-Ohio's strategic direction.

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Full transcript - Park-Ohio Holding (PKOH) Q1 2024:

Operator: Good morning and welcome to the Park-Ohio First Quarter 2024 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the presentation, the company will conduct a question-and-answer session. Today’s conference is also being recorded. [Operator Instructions] Before we get started, I want to remind everyone that certain statements made on today’s call may be forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. A list of relevant risks and uncertainties may be found in the earnings press release as well as in the company’s 2023 10-K, which was filed on March 6, 2024, with the SEC. Additionally, the company may discuss adjusted EPS, adjusted operating income and EBITDA as defined on a continuing operations or consolidated basis. These metrics are not measures of performance under generally accepted accounting principles. For a reconciliation of EPS to adjusted EPS, operated income to adjusted operated income and net income attributable to Park-Ohio common shareholders to EBITDA as defined, please refer to the company’s recent earnings release. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Matthew Crawford, Chairman, President and CEO. Please proceed, Mr. Crawford.

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Matthew Crawford: Great. Thank you very much, and welcome to the first quarter of 2024 conference call. Thank you for joining. We’re pleased with the performance of our company during the quarter, especially as it relates to our improved margins and our continued focus on managing improved cash flows. As most of you know, we’ve spent most of the last several years driving initiatives that would improve the quality of earnings across the businesses. These include commercial activity regarding pricing and exiting low or negative margin business, the restructuring of several high-cost locations, renewed focus on growing our highest-margin products and services and the sale of non-core assets. During the first quarter, we began to see a clearer picture of the momentum of those efforts and are proceeding towards a leaner, less capital-intensive and more predictable business. I particularly want to acknowledge the efforts of Supply Technologies. Supply Tech has led the way as an agile supplier to many of the world’s most demanding and often volatile industries and customers, while driving continuous improvement initiatives deeper into the organization and investing aggressively in new productivity tools in both data intelligence and operating execution. Additionally, the innovative ideas in the fastener manufacturing group continue to bring important value-driven solutions to an increasing set of global customers, particularly in the EV space. ACG’s relentless focus on operations after several years of consolidations, which are now substantially complete, have not only created more improved and consistent performance, but allow us to quote new business and new products from a position of lower cost and world-class execution. Our product portfolio is diverse and, in many cases, agnostic to the powertrain of the vehicle. EPG continues to benefit from strong backlogs in a growing and impressive aftermarket and service business precipitated by a massive installed base globally and trusted brands in the industrial space. We’re striving to improve execution in the new equipment business, where we’ve seen substantial turnover in key knowledge areas and expect improvements as we head into the latter part of the year. I remind us all that this group should and will be a leader in accretion to our consolidated marches. For the balance of the year, we anticipate improved year-over-year comparisons and annual growth in line with our guidance. stable demand generally combined with strong aerospace and defense volumes plus solid backlogs in the long-cycle businesses support that assumption. Additionally, we believe macro trends and renewed spending in infrastructure, EV and semiconductor will play a larger role in our success towards the latter part of the year. With that, I’ll turn it over to Pat to cover the quarter results.

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Patrick Fogarty: Thank you, Matt. Our first quarter results were a positive start to the year. Our revenues were in line with our projections and operating income, earnings per share and EBITDA exceeded our internal expectations. Sales in the quarter totaled $418 million, and customer demand continued to be strong in most key end markets. The strong end market demand along with operational improvements drove the strong performance during the quarter. Our consolidated gross margin was 17.1% in the quarter, up 120 basis points from the first quarter of last year. This is the highest level of gross margin in over 5 years. Also, our adjusted EPS of $0.85 per share was up 18% compared to $0.72 a year ago, and EBITDA as defined improved 19% year-over-year. Consolidated operating income improved 19% to $24 million compared to $20.2 million in the first quarter of last year. Operating income margins improved 90 basis points year-over-year to 5.7% of net sales. The strong first quarter operating income performance was driven by record profit performance in Supply Technologies and operating income improvement in assembly components. SG&A expenses were $47 million compared to $45 million a year ago, with the increase driven by an increase in personnel costs. Interest costs increased to $11.9 million during the quarter compared to $10.7 million last year, driven by higher interest rates in the current year, partially offset by lower average borrowings outstanding in the quarter. Our effective tax rate was 25% in the quarter. Foreign tax credits and research and development credits helped to offset the impact of higher foreign tax rates. We expect our full year effective tax rate to range between 23% and 25%. GAAP earnings per share from continued operations for the quarter improved 36% to $0.83 per diluted share compared to $0.61 last year. On an adjusted basis, our earnings per share was $0.85 compared to $0.72 a year ago, an increase of 18%. Our EBITDA as defined totaled $38 million in the first quarter. On a trailing 12-month basis, our EBITDA as defined was $141 million, resulting in improved leverage ratios compared to year-end. During the quarter, we generated improved year-over-year operating cash flows and free cash flow. We continue to implement working capital initiatives, which will drive improved free cash flow for the remainder of the year. Our liquidity at the end of the first quarter was $168 million, which consisted of approximately $62 million of cash on hand and $106 million of unused borrowing capacity under our various banking arrangements. As we previously announced, S&P Global upgraded our credit ratings during the quarter due to our improved operating performance and reduced financial leverage. Also, during the quarter, we announced the acquisition of EMA GmbH. EMA strengthens our global induction heating expertise throughout Europe and expands both our portfolio of induction equipment brands and our aftermarket service capabilities. We have commenced the integration of EMA into our existing operations in Germany, and we expect EMA’s annual revenues to exceed $30 million and the results to be accretive to our operating margins and our earnings per share. Turning now to our segment results. In Supply Technologies, net sales were $197 million during the quarter, up slightly from a year ago, reflecting continued strong demand in most key end markets and led by a 28% increase in our aerospace and defense business and strong growth in our industrial supply business. During the quarter, demand was lower year-over-year in the heavy-duty truck and agricultural equipment markets, which partially offset this growth. We also achieved record sales in our fastener manufacturing business, which were up 15% from a year ago due to strong customer demand for our proprietary products throughout North America and Europe. Operating income in this segment totaled a record $19.5 million compared to $14 million a year ago. Operating margins were also a record at 9.9%, up 270 basis points from 7.2% a year ago. The higher profitability in the quarter was driven by an increase in sales from higher-margin products, lower operating costs in our supply chain business and sales growth in our proprietary fastener business. Our focus on reducing product costs, location profit improvement initiatives and expanding our higher-margin industrial supply and proprietary fastener products impacted the first quarter and will continue to positively affect future margins. In our Assembly Components segment, sales for the quarter continued to be strong across all product categories and totaled $107 million. This compared to the sales of $110 million a year ago, with the decline primarily due to lower unit volumes in our fuel rail and extruded rubber products businesses. Despite the lower sales level, segment operating income increased 18% to $8.6 million from $7.3 million a year ago. Segment margins were also higher in the current year at 8% compared to 6.6% last year, an increase of 140 basis points. The improvement in profitability was driven by ongoing profit improvement initiatives, improved product pricing and the benefit from completed plant consolidations. In this segment, we continue to focus on improving operational execution in each of our manufacturing plants and are implementing other profit improvement actions, including expanding our rubber mixing capacity and increasing plant floor automation, which will positively impact our operating margins. In our Engineered Products segment, the demand continued to be strong across most product brands and geographies. First quarter sales were $114 million compared to $117 million a year ago. The slight decline in sales was driven by lower sales of new equipment, primarily in the U.S. and in Europe. During the quarter, our aftermarket revenue increased 16% year-over-year. New equipment bookings totaled approximately $40 million in the quarter compared to average quarterly bookings of $43 million in 2023. Backlogs continue to be strong in this segment and totaled $151 million compared to $162 million last quarter. Revenues in our Forged and Machine products business also improved and increased 4% year-over-year. During the quarter, operating income in this segment was $3.5 million compared to $5 million a year ago. And on an adjusted basis, operating income was $3.8 million in the quarter compared to $7 million last year. The profitability decline year-over-year in this segment was driven by lower and new equipment sales in our induction business, lower sales volumes, isolated in our forging operation in Arkansas and higher operating costs to complete new equipment. We are taking aggressive actions to improve profitability in this segment, including implementing initiatives to improve supply chain challenges experienced during the quarter and to improve the production throughput on new equipment orders. And finally, corporate expenses totaled $7.6 million during the quarter compared to $6.9 million a year ago, driven by higher purchasing costs. With respect to our full year 2024 guidance, we continue to expect year-over-year revenue growth in the mid-single-digit range. We also continue to expect year-over-year improvement in adjusted earnings per share and EBITDA as defined. Now I’ll turn the call back over to Matt.

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Matthew Crawford: Thanks, Pat. I appreciate the look at the first quarter. And now we’ll open the line up for questions.

Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first questions come from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. Please proceed with your questions.

Dave Storms: Good morning.

Matthew Crawford: Good morning, Dave.

Dave Storms: Just hoping to – sorry, it looks like Supply Tech really was the flag bear for everything that can go right for you guys. How easy or challenging will it be to map some of those process improvements onto assembly components and engineered products to see the same results there?

Matthew Crawford: Yes. I – it’s not uncommon, Dave. I know you’ve looked at the business over a number of years. I often say a great industrial holding companies are full of great industrial businesses. And we have a number of great industrial businesses. Underneath the hood, each of them sort of have their own particular business cycle. So having some volatility between the group and having different leadership profiles is not uncommon to us. And you’re absolutely right. Supply Tech, both on the manufacturing and the distribution side have really performed well for the better part of a couple of years here. So I used the word agile in my comments purposefully because it seems like every month, there’s a different challenge. But again, I think we’re on a sustainable path there. As I mentioned, ACG I think, is in a really good place relative to the stability of their business. We invested heavily in the restructuring of that business. We’ve put ourselves in a great position from an operating excellence standpoint. It reflects itself in productivity, operating efficiencies. We, I think, put ourselves in a great spot there. So I think the tail to take there is new business, an area of tremendous focus now that we have this operating model that we believe is best in class. So that will play out. And I think we’ll see accretion there as we build that business or continue to build that business going forward. So I think from an operational perspective, my point is we have mapped to use your word, a lot of the success that we hope to bring to the business after a difficult couple of years, and now it’s about building it. Engineered Products, again, often historically has been the leader in the business has had its own set of challenges related to a few different things. One is some consolidations there where we consolidated businesses, which can be a challenge. That business is – relies heavily on know-how and knowledge, some of which we lost during the changeover. So again, the business principles there around unique assets, strong aftermarket business and tremendous brands in the new equipment space, particularly in electrification, industrial electrification as well as products that are heavy in aerospace and defense. The market’s there. The backlogs are there. I think it’s a usual word, again, mapping over some of the operational excellence that we’ve begun to see in the first 2 units has just taken a little more time than we thought.

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Dave Storms: Understood. That’s very helpful. Thank you. When you mentioned a little bit in your response there that you’re working on, obviously, new business in automotive, what does that sales cycle look like? Is – now that we’re in a more normal world than we were a couple of years ago is the contact to contract cycle trending shorter – and any insight you can give us there would be very helpful?

Matthew Crawford: Yes. I think there’s – I mean there’s two types of at least two. I’ll just use two, really three types of new business in the automotive space on the OE side. I think one is replacement business. I think we’re extremely well positioned on key programs to achieve replacement business given where we are in terms of productivity, scrap rates and all the things that drive the performance of an automotive supplier. So I like where we are there. I think there’s new business in the space that we participate in, extrusion, molding, etcetera. And again, I think we’re particularly well suited there, given the consolidation and the productivity improvements we’ve made over the last couple of years. So I think, again, I think we’re – those are sort of two of the areas, I think we’re primed for success in the near-term. I think that the third is launching new products, and that’s a little longer cycle. So those first two, I see as being impactful, if not later this year, certainly into ‘25 and ‘26, developing new products and launching them typically to be material, could take a couple more years. So no, but the bottom line is we expect – we didn’t just start this new business cycle, particularly not in categories one and two, but I would anticipate us to outperform car builds beginning in 2025 in terms of growth.

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Dave Storms: Understood. That’s very helpful. Thank you for taking my questions. And good luck in the future.

Matthew Crawford: Thanks, Dave.

Operator: Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.

Christian Zyla: Good morning, everyone.

Matthew Crawford: Hey, Steve.

Christian Zyla: This is actually Christian Zyla for Steve. Good morning. So your gross margin this quarter looks to be the highest since 3Q ‘16. Very impressive. Can you just walk us through what enabled that? Was that due to pricing in your portfolio or more on the material cost side? And do you think this is a sustainable new level?

Patrick Fogarty: Christian, this is Pat. As I mentioned in the script, Supply Tech really led to the operating income performance during the quarter. As a result of a higher level of sales in higher-margin products. I mentioned aerospace and defense increased year-over-year significantly. I mentioned the growth in our Industrial Products business, which typically carries higher margins. So overall, mix was a big factor in the increase. In addition, the growth that we saw in our proprietary fastener products, which we expect to continue really nice margin relative to the products that they are implementing around the world relative to EV and other applications that use our self-piercing and clinch products. So there was a lot that impacted Q1. Mix obviously has a lot to do with it, but we are very pleased with where margins have been. And a lot of heavy lifting went on over the last 2 years around pricing with customers around reducing product costs, and those initiatives will continue as we continue to drive our operating margins in that segment. In the automotive segment, we saw a nice improvement year-over-year in our operating income. And a lot of that has to do with the consolidations that were completed, as Matt mentioned. And in the early part of the completion of those consolidations, there are additional costs, start-up costs, training costs, inefficiencies that occur on the plant floor that we’re getting over now. And we’re starting to see those improvements occur and throughput increase, which obviously helps drive an increase in our operating margins. Matt mentioned our Engineered Products group and some of the challenges that we faced; we expect margins to continue to improve. A number of initiatives are in place. We did see nice improvement in our forging plant in Canton, which historically has been a higher margin business. We see a lot of new growth opportunities in our capital equipment business as it relates to forging equipment, which carries a higher margin. So we’re pleased with where we’re at, at 17.1% overall and hoping to be able to continue that as we get through the rest of the year.

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Matthew Crawford: Christian, I would only add, there’s two layers of improvement, both inside some of the businesses, particularly Supply Tech and on the consolidated gross margins. One is a structural shift to higher-margin businesses. I mean we’re trying to give the businesses that have the highest margins, their unfair share of capital. And that includes not only investing in the right places. In this particular case, we’re benefiting from seed we plant in aerospace and defense 2, 3, 4, 5 years ago. So it led to pay off. It also includes exiting low-margin businesses where we don’t provide a value set that we can get paid for. So I think there’s a significant amount of sort of structural work here. There’s no question Supply Tech performed at a very strong level. So I think that our focus, particularly in automotive continuous improvement is continuing to benefit us. So again, we’re going to see market leadership inside our business from different businesses at different times, unquestionably. And right now, certainly the leader was in Supply Tech. But we believe at the end of the day, we’re building a more stable, simpler, sustainable business model and less capital-intensive. So I hope that helps.

Christian Zyla: Great. Yes, very helpful. I guess just sticking with Supply Tech, and I know part of this is the improvements you guys have made over the last few years and part of it was the mix. But just how much of the margin expansion outside of that low 7% range was mix driven? And should we expect that to continue or a step down for the balance of the year? Just trying to think of the model here.

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Patrick Fogarty: Yes, Christian, I would say most of the improvement north of, say, 70% was a result of mix. But on the other hand, as we get through the rest of the quarter, we’ve got initiatives to continue to reduce our product cost, which will help offset the change in mix going forward. So, I would like to believe we can continue with that 9.9% operating income margin. But anything that takes us north of 8% will generate a nice comparison year-over-year. But we are going to continue to drive towards a margin that looks closer to 10%.

Matthew Crawford: I mean we are – again, we are trying to grow our best parts of our business from a quality of earnings standpoint, more quickly. Again, aerospace and defense is a good example. Yes, in the quarter, that gave us great mix, maybe optimal mix. But – so it is a tough comp. There is no question if that’s your point, it is. Having said that, we have made changes that, again, we think we have taken the business to a higher level.

Christian Zyla: Great. And then just switching gears to Engineered Products, I know in the past, you have said as engineered goes Park-Ohio goes. But as we look at the business, I mean is there a business line in EP that’s a drag on margins? And as you look at the entire engineered portfolio, is there any way to structurally improve the business, like you guys recently did with assembly components?

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Matthew Crawford: We need to break the business apart a little bit to think about that. Number one, we have made a tremendous amount of decisions over the last few years to try and improve our business for the long-term. I think the most well-known example is the consolidation of crop forge into Canton, maybe a lesser-known example is the expansion of Southwest Steel Processing with the second forge line. These decisions were made with the long-term health and interest of the business in mind. And I think they were made at the right time. Again, these are businesses were centers of excellence, access to trained labor. These are the kinds of decisions that build the business long-term. Having said that, these are very difficult operating decisions and consolidation decisions at a time where turnover was much higher than usual retirements and loss of knowledge much higher than usual. So, I think benefiting from those decisions where we sort of worked that through in the automotive business over a couple of years, these are more challenging opportunities. Having said that, these are some of our most stable customers and products. These are businesses that tend to be very unique assets and capabilities. So, we are not losing business. The backlogs are strong, and we need to perform against them. Separately, when I think about the equipment business, where we added EMA recently, the aftermarket business, as I mentioned, is a bright spot and continues to be a bright spot. And the macro trends around defense and aerospace and infrastructure will benefit that business as well as the forge business in an outsized way. So, we continue, I think to be a premier supplier of these products in a world that’s electrifying. So, having said all that, the new equipment part of the business, as I mentioned in my comments, is difficult right now. Again, for some of the same reasons at the forge, combined with the fact that the cycle time on some of these orders whether it be a forging press or an induction heater could be from order to ship or your installation could be 18 months, 16 months, 14 months. It takes time to catch up. It takes time to optimize from both a pricing and an execution standpoint. So, we have strong conviction on the macro trends. We have strong convictions on the decisions we have made, and we have strong conviction on the bones of the business from backlogs and installed base. And aftermarket, it’s just – there is a smaller part of the business that I have mentioned in a couple of areas, places where we consolidated or grew rapidly in forging or new equipment, which has been difficult and will continue to be, and we are going to get better every day. But that’s the nature of a diversified portfolio.

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Christian Zyla: Great. Really appreciate the answer. I have got one last one and I will pass it back. Just with the FY ‘24 guide, I know you guys added EMA, but does your M&A pipeline enable upside to your guidance, or should we think about this year as primarily organic-driven top line? And then in the quarter, should we think about a couple of points of price, the difference being volume for the overall sales performance? Thank you for the time.

Matthew Crawford: I will let Pat take the latter. I will take the former. We tend not to build acquisitions into our model. So, I think that always has some upside to it. We are not depending on future acquisitions to meet the goals we have laid in front of you hard stock. So, that is opportunistic. We have tended to do deals fairly often. So, I would not want you to leave the call thinking that we are not out there thinking what’s going to be beneficial for our long-term success, we always are. Having said that, we are also tuned into managing our cash flow, managing our debt levels, and so we are trying to do – trying to walk and shoot them at the same time. But to be clear, any acquisition that you would see us complete for the remainder of the year should be accretive to our goals and should be something that you should be awfully excited about or we would be awfully excited about, which means you too.

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Operator: Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Yilma Abebe with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your questions.

Yilma Abebe: Thank you. Good morning. I guess my first question is...

Matthew Crawford: Good morning.

Yilma Abebe: Good morning. You talked quite a bit about the operational improvements you put in place across the businesses over the last several years. Margins expanded quite nicely in a flat revenue environment. I guess when revenue increases, how should we be thinking about the operating leverage in the business over the longer term. Really, what I am trying to get at is what’s the margin opportunity set in a higher revenue environment?

Patrick Fogarty: Yilma this is Pat. Clearly, we focus on that flow through at a higher level of revenue. And we would like to believe that, that flow-through relative to our operating income margins would be north of 15%. But we have such a wide range of products and plants. And so often that sometimes could be higher, sometimes it can be lower. But in general, we expect a flow-through of at least 15% in each of the businesses as revenues expand. Because our – especially in our manufacturing businesses where there is a high level of fixed costs, we have positioned our self nicely around the world in our manufacturing plants to have the capacity to grow revenues without growing the fixed cost makeup of the business, so that will enhance the flow-through as revenues increase.

Yilma Abebe: Thank you. That’s helpful. I guess maybe a follow-up to that. I guess as it relates to costs, I think I think you talked about trying to make the business less capital intensive. From the capital-intensive perspective, are we thinking about more pure CapEx, or would we expect to see lower working capital in the system? And are there other layers of costs lower as we move forward here?

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Patrick Fogarty: Clearly, on the CapEx side Yilma, we expect our capital to be spent in certain pockets of the business, especially where we are seeing growth. For the current year, we expect to approximate $25 million in CapEx, which is compared to historic levels, much less. Much of our capital being spent this year is on these growth opportunities and in technology. But going forward, I would expect our CapEx to be lower than $25 million. We continue to focus on reducing our working capital investment in each of our businesses and have initiatives to continue to pull inventory down, accelerate customer payments, manage our days to pay accordingly, which will help us drive an increase in our free cash flow this year. All of those things under the current model that we have built are less than historic levels. So, when you think about working capital and you think about supplier lead times, over the last couple of years between freight issues and import issues and supplier delay, expanding lead times, we had an embedded level of inventory that exceeded $50 million. We haven’t worked that all out of the system. So, we continue to work hard on bringing those lead times with suppliers down to their most efficient levels. We try to figure out ways to push inventory back to the suppliers to reduce our level of inventory that we are carrying, all of those things will benefit our free cash flow going forward.

Yilma Abebe: Thank you very much. That’s all I had. I will pass it on.

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Patrick Fogarty: Thanks Yilma.

Operator: Thank you. We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Matthew Crawford for any closing remarks.

Matthew Crawford: Great. Thank you very much. Thanks for your time and attention and investment in our company. Again, we look forward to a year of improving results and also a year of stable outlook. So, we appreciate your time. Thanks.

Operator: Thank you so much. This does conclude today’s teleconference. We appreciate your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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