TAL Education Group (NYSE:TAL) reported its fourth-quarter 2024 earnings, showcasing a notable performance with earnings per share (EPS) of $0.06, surpassing the forecast of $0.04. The company also exceeded revenue expectations, recording $606.4 million against the projected $536.8 million. The positive earnings report led to a significant pre-market stock surge of 11.5%, reflecting investor confidence in TAL's strategic direction and financial health.
Key Takeaways
- TAL Education's EPS of $0.06 beat the forecast by 50%.
- Revenue grew by 62.4% year-over-year, reaching $606.4 million.
- Pre-market stock price increased by 11.5% following the earnings release.
- The company launched innovative learning devices, enhancing its product portfolio.
- TAL anticipates a potential seasonal revenue decline in Q4 for learning devices.
Company Performance
TAL Education Group demonstrated robust financial performance in the fourth quarter of 2024, reversing a net loss from the previous year to achieve a net income of $23.1 million. This turnaround can be attributed to the company's strategic focus on product innovation and market expansion. The education technology sector continues to grow, driven by increasing parental interest in holistic child development and advanced learning solutions.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: $606.4 million, a 62.4% increase year-over-year.
- Gross profit: $319.8 million, up 59.6% from the previous year.
- Gross margin: 52.7%, slightly down from 53.6% last year.
- Net income: $23.1 million, compared to a net loss of $23.9 million last year.
- Non-GAAP net income: $38.6 million.
Earnings vs. Forecast
TAL Education's EPS of $0.06 exceeded the forecast of $0.04 by 50%, marking a significant earnings surprise. Revenue also surpassed expectations, coming in at $606.4 million against the projected $536.8 million. This performance highlights TAL's ability to deliver beyond market expectations, continuing a positive trend from previous quarters.
Market Reaction
Following the earnings announcement, TAL's stock experienced an 11.5% increase in pre-market trading, reaching $10.18. This movement contrasts with its recent closing price of $9.13. The stock's rise reflects strong investor sentiment, further supported by TAL's strategic initiatives and robust financial results. The current price remains within the 52-week range of $7.35 to $15.52.
Outlook & Guidance
Looking ahead, TAL Education plans to continue investing in research and development, particularly in AI technologies, to enhance its learning solutions. The company anticipates a potential revenue decline in the upcoming quarter due to seasonal factors affecting learning device sales. However, TAL remains focused on expanding its customer engagement both online and offline.
Executive Commentary
"We remain committed to delivering high-quality learning experiences and services," stated Alex Peng, President of TAL Education. He emphasized the transformative potential of artificial intelligence in redefining education. Jackson Ding, Deputy CFO, highlighted the importance of tracking user feedback and engagement to drive future growth.
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts inquired about TAL's strategy for online enrichment programs and the performance of its learning devices. The company addressed these concerns by detailing its plans for product development and market expansion, emphasizing a balance between growth and operational efficiency.
Risks and Challenges
- Seasonal fluctuations could impact revenue from learning devices.
- Increasing competition in the education technology sector.
- Potential macroeconomic pressures affecting consumer spending.
- The need to continuously innovate to meet evolving market demands.
- Managing the balance between growth and operational costs.
TAL Education Group's strong performance and strategic initiatives have positioned it well in the competitive education technology market, despite potential challenges ahead.
Full transcript - TAL Education Group (TAL) Q3 2025:
Conference Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to TAIL Education Group's Fiscal 2025 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be informed, today's conference is being recorded.
I would now like to hand the conference over to Ms. Huang Liu, Investor Relations Director. Thank you. Please go ahead.
Huang Liu, Investor Relations Director, TAO Education Group: Thank you all for joining us today for TAO Education Group's Q3 fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call. The earnings release was distributed earlier today, and you may find a copy on the company's IR website or through the newswires. During this call, you will hear from Mr. Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer and Mr. Jackson Ding, Deputy Chief Financial Officer.
Following the prepared remarks, Mr. Peng and Mr. Ding will be available to answer your questions. Before we continue, please note that today's discussion will contain forward looking statements made under the Chicago provisions of the U. S.
Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Potential risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, those outlined in our public filings with the SEC. For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our filings with the SEC. Also, our earnings release and this call include discussions of certain non GAAP financial measures.
Please refer to our earnings release, which contains a reconciliation of the non GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Alex Peng. Alex, please go ahead.
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Thank you, Fang. And I'd also like to thank all of you for joining today's conference call. I'll provide an overview of our business progress and financial performance for the Q3 of fiscal year 2025, followed by Jackson's review of our operational advancements and key business results. Then I'll finish up with a brief update on our future strategy and outlook. We remain committed to delivering high quality learning experiences and services throughout the last fiscal quarter.
More students and parents are choosing our products and services to enhance their children's daily learning. These users provide valuable feedback throughout their journey with TAO, empowering our ongoing innovation as we refine product features and formats based on actual user needs. As always, we aim to improve the learning experience and support students' holistic development. This quarter, we provided more engaging learning experiences through our learning services programs. Both our offline and online enrichment learning programs continued to receive positive feedback from users, reflecting the quality of our products and services.
Our enrichment learning programs are designed to elevate learners' abilities, fostering well rounded development across a range of competencies. As we recognize that true learning extends beyond just acquiring knowledge, at tau, we prioritize the growth of skills such as reading comprehension, critical thinking, problem solving and quantitative reasoning. These competencies equip learners with the tools to navigate real world challenges. We believe this product market fit positioning aligns with the needs of a new generation of parents who are seeking in-depth cross disciplinary educational opportunities for their children. So take our Peiyou enrichment small classes as an example, market demand for enrichment learning and our consistent delivery of high quality services drove continued growth of this business line during the fiscal quarter.
For content solutions, we remain dedicated to creating and curating high quality content that supports our users' diverse learning journeys. Our goal is to empower learners and enrich their learning experience with inspiring and impactful resources that enable them to thrive. So this quarter, we continue to refine our content solutions product offerings and bolster our go to market strategies. In late August 2024, we launched a new learning device, the XBook, a tablet targeting customers with practice focused learning needs. It features a color e paper display with 3 modes: learning, practicing and reading.
We received some initial user feedback on the product this quarter, and we're pleased to report that it has proven to be a valuable tool in practice focused learning scenarios. Our efforts to enhance our product capabilities are yielding positive results for the learning device business. Key metrics such as weekly active rates and average weekly usage time for the entire user base remains stable and healthy as our product lineup and user base continue to expand. The average weekly active rate for our entire learning device user base was at around 80%, with an average daily usage time of 1 hour per device throughout the quarter. What's more, over half of these active users engaged with the device for 5 or more days per week.
In addition to these achievements, our XPAD recently received a Twice PIX award at the Consumer Electronics Show 2025. This annual award recognizes the year's influential consumer technologies, underscoring XPath's market recognition and innovative features. Execution across services and products continues to drive our financial growth. Our net revenues for the quarter reached US606.4 million dollars or RMB4,323,200,000 reflecting year over year growth of 62.4% and 59.2% in U. S.
Dollar and RMB terms respectively. Our non GAAP loss from operations and non GAAP net income attributable to Tal stood at US1.9 million dollars US38.6 million dollars respectively. So with that overview, I'll turn the call over to Jackson to discuss the operational advancements we've made in our core business lines and review our financial performance for the 3rd fiscal quarter. Jackson, over to you.
Jackson Ding, Deputy Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Thank you, Alex. Before I get started with my review, please note that all financial data for the quarter are unaudited. Let me begin with our Learning Services and Others business, which encompasses a wide range of learning programs. This business line maintained its growth momentum for the Q3 of fiscal year 2025, achieving year over year revenue growth, thanks to the development of multiple product lines. Notably, our Peiyou small class enrichment programs remain the largest revenue contributor within Learning Services and Others Business.
Under the tailwind of increasing customer acceptance of enrichment learning, Peiyou Enrichment Small Class continues its development momentum. For this business, our priority is to provide quality in person learning experience for our users. We take a dynamic and methodical approach in managing our learning center network. Each decision is based on careful evaluation of factors such as market demand, user acceptance, operational capability and efficiency. Our online enrichment learning business continues to progress in line with our strategic objectives.
We have differentiated our online programs from offline offerings by integrating smart interactive features that cater to online learning habits, boosting user motivation and deepening engagement. By consistently innovating and refining our online products, we strive to meet the growing demand for dynamic and impactful digital learning experiences. For learning devices, our goal is to support users' self learning journeys with a diverse product selection and richer smart features and learning resources. This fiscal quarter, we expanded our offerings to reach a broader user base, helping more users find learning solutions that suit their unique needs. It has been 2 years since the launch of our 1st generation learning device.
Last year, we offered only one product. Now, we are featuring a lineup of 4, Bolstered by the e commerce event season in the 3rd fiscal quarter of 2025, our learning device revenue increased both year over year and quarter over quarter. We remain committed to enhancing product capabilities as we expand our product portfolio. During this fiscal quarter, we upgraded our existing XPath learning devices, optimizing the Precision Learning Pro feature to better align with the needs of at home learning and support personalized learning journeys for all users. Additionally, we introduced a split screen functionality that allows learners to use 2 apps simultaneously on the same interface, further enhancing the learning devices' usability.
We also rolled out a customization feature for virtual avatars to deepen user engagement, Designing and personalizing avatars makes the learning process more interactive, boosting children's motivation and enthusiasm for learning. In terms of product expansion, as Alex mentioned, in late August, we further enriched our product lineup with the launch of XBook. XBook allows learners to seamlessly switch between learning, practicing and reading modes using a built in toggle, enhancing the overall learning experience. It also features an eye protective screen and a smooth writing stylus. We have closely observed Xbox's user habits over the past quarter, and we are pleased to see Xbox's practice related features being utilized frequently.
Powered by our large language model, the Xbox AI driven features include intelligent grading, arrow tracking and personalized recommendations to comprehensively support users in their guided practice sessions. The ongoing development of AI technology is also advancing XBook's intelligent grading capabilities. XBook can generate detailed profiles of students' performance, capturing metrics such as response time, accuracy rates and aero patents, enabling students to more effectively evaluate their learning progress and focus on targeted study. This not only allows us to better support user growth, but also provide insight for content development and optimization. We will continue to monitor Xbox's performance and refine its features to ensure alignment with user needs.
Now let's move on to our key financial results for the 3rd fiscal year 3rd fiscal quarter, excuse me, of 2025. Our net revenues were $606,400,000 or RMB4,323,200,000 an increase of 62.4% and 59.2% year over year in U. S. Dollar and RMB terms respectively. Cost of revenue increased by 65.5 percent to US286.7 million dollars from US173.2 million dollars for the same period of last year.
Non GAAP cost of revenues, which excludes share based compensation expenses, increased by 67.2 percent to $285,400,000 from $170,700,000 for the same period last year. Gross profit increased for the Q3 of fiscal year 2025, rising by 59.6 percent year over year to US319.8 million dollars from US200.3 million dollars for the same period last year. Gross margin decreased to 52.7% from 53.6 percent for the same period last year. Selling and marketing expenses for the quarter were $226,400,000 representing an increase of 85.6 percent from $122,000,000 for the same period last year. Non GAAP selling and marketing expenses, which exclude share based compensation expenses, increased by 91.0 percent to US222.4 million dollars from US116.4 million dollars for the same period last year.
Selling and marketing expenses as a percentage of total net revenues increased from 32.7% to 37.3% year over year. The uptick in selling and marketing expenses was primarily driven by increased selling and marketing activities from some online channels. General and administrative expenses increased by 0.8 percent to US111.5 million dollars from US110.7 million dollars for the same period last year. Non GAAP general and administrative expenses, which exclude share based compensation costs, increased by 4.8% year over year to US101.4 million dollars from US96.7 million dollars for the same period last year. Non GAAP general and administrative expenses as a percentage of total net revenues decreased from 25.9% to 16.7% year over year.
Total (EPA:TTEF) share based compensation expense allocated to related operating costs and expenses decreased by 29.5 percent to US15.5 million dollars for the Q3 of fiscal year 2025 from US22.0 million dollars for the same period last year. Loss from operations was $17,400,000 for the Q3 of fiscal year 2025 compared to loss from operations of $32,200,000 for the same period last year. Non GAAP loss from operations, which excludes share based compensation expenses, was US1.9 million dollars compared to a non GAAP loss from operations of US10.2 million dollars for the same period last year. Net income attributable to TAO was US23.1 million dollars for the Q3 of fiscal year 2025, compared to net loss attributable to TAO of US23.9 million dollars for the same period last year. Non GAAP net income attributable to TAO, which excludes share based compensation expenses, was US38.6 million dollars compared to a non GAAP net loss attributable to TAO of US1.9 million dollars for the same period last year.
Moving on to our balance sheet. As of November 30, 2024, we had US2240.8 billion dollars in cash and cash equivalents, US1595 billion dollars in short term investments, and US347.6 million dollars in current and non current restricted cash. Our deferred revenue balance was US825.6 million dollars as of the end of the 3rd fiscal quarter of 2025. Now turning to our cash flow statement. Net cash provided by operating activities for the Q3 of fiscal year 2025 was US378 $1,000,000 That concludes the financial section.
I will now hand the call back to Alex to briefly update you on our business outlook. Alex, please go ahead.
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Thanks, Jackson. So I'd like to share some insights on the outlook for the company's future development. Moving forward, we may experience some fluctuations in our business performance due to seasonal factors. For example, in fiscal year 2025 Q4, we anticipate a year over year decline in revenue from learning devices as the Q3 is typically a peak season for e commerce activities. Nevertheless, we remain committed to achieving healthy and sustainable long term growth across all our business lines.
For Learning Services, we will maintain our high quality standards for both offline and online learning products and strive to deliver premium enrichment programs to an even broader user base. We plan to prudently manage our learning center network and develop additional programs tailored to meet the specific needs of various user groups, while also managing our operational efficiency. In terms of content solutions, we'll closely monitor user feedback and market demand and use those insights to further enhance our learning devices and their features. We'll also expand our learning content library and explore new product developments. At the same time, we'll keep refining our go to market strategies.
By aligning innovation with user needs, we aim to deliver impactful learning experiences to all of our customers. So for the past few years, we've been innovating at the intersection of learning and technology, advancing our technological capabilities to deliver quality learning solutions. The potential of emerging technologies, particularly artificial intelligence is transformative and inspiring. Over the last year or 2, we have gained a clear understanding of what is achievable with AI in education and what is still needed to fully unleash its possibilities. Our focus now is 2 fold.
1st, leveraging industry specific data to train vertical models and second, developing applications that harness the power of both foundational models and vertical models. Today's children and parents face a major challenge, how to grow into individuals who can thrive in the age of artificial intelligence. Their demand for intelligent solutions exceeds the capabilities of current technology. This creates an opportunity for us to bridge the gap between traditional solutions from centuries ago and the advanced needs of today's children and parents. With a love of learning and technology at the heart of everything we do, we remain committed to creating innovative products that empower students, families and educators.
We look forward to shaping and witnessing this exciting future together. So that concludes my prepared remarks. Operator, we're ready to open the call for questions.
Conference Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Alice Tsai from Citi. Please go ahead.
Alice Tsai, Analyst, Citi: Good evening, management. Congratulations on the strong results. I have 2 questions. For the Peiyou enrichment offline business, could you please share any recent changes in the market dynamics? Have you ever noticed any negative impacts from consumption downgrades or intensified competition?
My second question is how was the network expansion in Q3 for TL? And has there been any changes in key operating metrics such as renewal rates? Thank you so much.
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Thanks for your question. This is Alex. Let me take on those two questions. And let me first start with my market observations, right? So in terms of enrichment learning, what we observed is sustained growth momentum in both market demand and our enrichment learning business performance over the past few quarters.
This newest generation of parents, they really started to form their own parental and educational philosophies. Many of them are today emphasizing their children's holistic development, right, rather than focusing only on academic performance at school. Official data on how fast the enrichment learning market is growing is still limited, but we are seeing more on the ground activity and user inquiries, which I think really reflect increasing interest from customers. So our products are designed to really meet this growing demand. Our enrichment programs interactive and engaging experiences, they aim to improve learners' critical thinking and logical reasoning.
And they foster an appreciation for the humanities, the arts and enhance hands on capabilities. As the enrichment learning market grows, our learning services business also continues to progress with it. I'd like to say a few words about market competition. It's a question that often comes to us. It really is a natural part of every market and every stage of development, right?
So when it comes to the enrichment learning offline small class market, it is more fragmented than many other markets. The key to remaining competitive in this market is really developing high quality products with solid performance focused metrics and ensuring our products serve local users well. So while we don't we do monitor the enrichment learning sectors dynamics, Our core focus is really on strengthening our own product capabilities. We really think what truly matters is meeting the needs of parents and students, right, delivering that meaningful value to our users and contributing positively to society. So that's why we strive to continually improve our product capabilities and adaptability.
Here, let me maybe give you some details on 2 specific efforts, right? One is around teacher recruitment and training and the second is really around product innovation. So we've had years of industry experience and deep understanding of our learners And we've developed a comprehensive teacher training system that emphasizes a standardized high quality lecturing approach and an interactive student centric learning experience, right? So both of these are really critical to the learning experience. We pride ourselves really on training most of our teachers in house to ensure a solid and consistent service quality.
So with this solid teaching foundation in place, we are equally committed to driving innovation in our products and services. We always look for new ways to integrate technology in the classroom, right, to enhance both the learning experience and the efficiency of our operations. So as an example, the use of both large and small screens, we call them large and small screen in our Peiyou classes. It's a really example in that direction. So when you look at traditional small group settings, 1 on 1 interaction between teachers and students can be challenging, right?
And we are over time addressing this challenge with technology driven solutions. So in our offline small classes, the teachers use a tablet. They hold a tablet in their hand and we call that teachers co pilot, right? And the screen displays a timeline that tells the teacher when to explain a particular example, when to initiate interaction with the students. So this really helps the teacher keep the lesson on pace and ensures that every student
Yiwen Zhang, Analyst, China Renaissance: in the
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: classroom can receive a level of individualized personalized attention. And in the meantime, we also provide small screen devices, tablets, right, for students, which will let them interact with teachers using handwriting, they can use voice, they can use gestures. And students can submit their class work real time and the teachers can instantly review those results. And after class, reports are promptly generated and shared with parents and they're saving the system to really build over time a personalized individualized learning profile for that student. So this really as you can see, this really in addition to providing individualized attention and experience, it also helps to save time and boost efficiency.
In addition, to improve the classroom experience for students, we've embedded immersive activities and high-tech interactive elements into pre class preparation, in class teaching and post class motivational activities. Our ongoing technological upgrades and innovations really, I think, they make the classroom smarter and more engaging, right? So this increases student engagements, attention, interaction and they really result in a more efficient and more enjoyable learning journey. So the PayU enrichment business is growing in parallel with user interest. The overall market development along with the efforts I just mentioned, they really played a key role in our business growth overall.
So in the Q3 of fiscal 2025, as I mentioned before, we've prudently managed our learning center network. And as the demands get there, we would add some additional learning centers in existing cities and optimize our network footprint to really meet demand and make it more convenient for all our customers. So to answer your question about operating metrics, we really aim to maintain operating efficiency at a healthy level by balancing our capacity with demand. We track key efficiency indicators as we always do, right, such as utilization rate, refund rate and retention rate. The retention rate has remained relatively stable quarter over quarter.
And overall, our operating metrics reflect a sustainable business model. And we really aspire to maintain this level of efficiency going forward. So we'll continue to manage our learning center network expansion prudently and balancing both growth and efficiency. So I hope that answered your questions.
Conference Operator: Thank you for the question. Next (LON:NXT) question comes from the line of Yiwen Zhang from China Renaissance. Please go ahead.
Yiwen Zhang, Analyst, China Renaissance: Yes. Thanks management for taking my question. So my question regarding R1 investment. So are there any updates management can provide regarding the long term investment? And specifically, where have the investment been made?
And have we seen any notable change in returns so far? Thank you.
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Yes. Thanks, Yuan. That's a great question. We've been focusing on the K-twelve educational sector, and we've developed a number of business lines across the entire learning journey and in different types of learning scenarios. I would say these are really at different stages of growth and they each face their unique challenges or opportunities, right?
And we remain committed to elevating our presence in the space with continuous innovation. So we're deepening our investment in areas that are still in their early stages to enhance user experience, expand our customer base and generate greater societal value. You may have observed our product advancements in these areas, right? I think they're really propelled by sustained investments in product development, research, marketing and operational enhancements. So for instance, if you look at our learning services, we've been steadily broadening the scope of our online offerings.
Originally, our online classes were based on dual teacher live streaming models. And now, we've introduced new product formats such as recorded classes. We also launched 2 new smart learning devices in 2024, and we're really consistently and continuously upgrading their AI powered software and content. In the smart learning devices business, we're continuing to invest in hardware, software research and development in Constance and also strengthening our go to market capabilities across both online and offline channels. And really, additionally, as I mentioned, the Consumer Electronics Show, we're exploring opportunities to expand our products reach internationally.
So overall, based on our experience serving users, we believe that this full stack capability, right, this full stack capability across hardware, software, content, AI technology, offline, operational and online services operational capabilities, that's the cornerstone of our user service, of our future growth and long term strategy. So it's really essential for us to continue to invest across these full stack capabilities. So let me maybe walk you through a few of our current top priorities in this area. I'll start with technology and content maybe. The integration of technology with learning, it really enhances our products.
So investing in R and D, in research and development is vital for creating a forward thinking and forward looking learning experience and strengthening our long term competitive advantage. We also firmly believe, and this is really widely recognized, that the transformative power of this latest generation of artificial intelligence as exemplified by these large language models that will really redefine and reimagine the future of education. So in terms of content, we always believe that high quality programs are a core competitive advantage. When students and parents trust a company's quality and standards, they're more likely to choose its products and services. This in turn then enhances the company's reputation and strengthens its brand recognition, right?
Next, we are committed to establishing and strengthening both online and offline
Yiwen Zhang, Analyst, China Renaissance: customer
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: conversation mechanisms. So let me talk a little bit about this, exactly what I mean by that, right? So for our online products, such as cirrus.com and learning devices, online marketing efforts are obviously a key in fostering that conversation with customers. And this conversation really spans across the entire decision making journey and then reaches to the learning journey itself. And we're trying to deepen this customer conversation and really broadening the users that we reach and broadening their acceptance of our products.
So for offline channels, really there is ever more present need for integrated online and offline dialogue going in conjunction, while the offline touch points themselves also remain crucial for user engagement. So in areas like learning services, we've been steadily building offline communication for years, right? We converse with our parents, at the learning center, at the reception desk, inside the classroom and so on. But in other areas, such as for learning devices, we're still at a nascent stage. We have a number of exploratory efforts underway.
In learning devices, there's a lot that we can learn from existing players, their experience in having this offline customer conversation. And we also look for ways to innovate on our own. So finally, in terms of investment, I'd like to also say a word about organization, right? We really aspire to become an organization that drives continuous innovation. And we consistently invest in building and refining our team and their capabilities to achieve this goal.
So developing initiatives aligned with major industry trends and broader ecosystem is a big part of our innovation journey. There's a saying in hockey that you skate to where the puck is going. So that's our approach. Some of the capabilities we need to excel in these areas are already in place, while others are still being built, are still in development. So we're constantly driving to enhance our organizational strength by nurturing our current employees and helping them grow, while also recruiting outstanding external talents.
So, Ewan, I hope that answered your question.
Conference Operator: Thank you for the questions. Our next question comes from the line of Timothy Zhao from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Timothy Zhao, Analyst, Goldman Sachs: Thank you, management, for taking my question and congrats on the very solid results. My question is regarding your online enrichment programs. I was just wondering if management can provide more insights into shares.com. Is the primary growth driver for this business driven by SKU expansion innovation or access to marketing new acquisitions? Thank you.
Jackson Ding, Deputy Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Timothy, thanks for the question. This is Jackson. I'll take this one. And I'm happy to share some thoughts on sharersa.com. Based on our observations of market demand and our confidence in our product quality, sherrancia.com remains one of our strategic priorities.
We have consistently invested in this business to strengthen our online enrichment product capabilities and enhance operational and marketing strategies. Our current goal is to serve more users by creating and offering quality products. Just like in many other businesses, our strategic focus for shares.com is product quality. So we're focused on developing high quality products and competing through product excellence. Additionally, we also believe it's important to engage our users across multiple channels, especially during exploratory phases of some products.
That's why we're constantly exploring ways to reach our users more efficiently. Customer acquisition is also a key growth driver for this business. But let me again talk about product first. Our product development efforts are primarily focused on refining and expanding product offerings. As you may have noticed, we are consistently upgrading existing products while developing new SKUs and diversifying our online formats.
When we first launched our online enrichment business, our main product format was the dual teacher live streaming model. Since then, we've adapted our products to better meet user demand, and we're now offering more topics and formats in addition to what we already have. We're also continually refining our products' interactive features and technology. We have meticulously designed our online programs to differentiate them from offline offerings. Their smart interactive features engage users and enhance teaching effectiveness.
As a result, our programs align well with online learning habits and meet the growing demand for digital learning experiences. For example, online classes today offer interactions that mimic real life experiences, right? In some of our online classes, students will be divided into small groups, for example, for in class discussions and then regroup again for the lectures. We have observed an impact on user engagement driven by such interactive features. Now coming back to user acquisition, effectively reaching new users is always crucial in building shares.com.
As we continue to deepen our understanding of user needs and enhance our product offerings, we're also improving our marketing efforts to better match our products with user demand. Additionally, we're leveraging multiple marketing channels to connect with a broader audience of target customers. This increases users' awareness of our offerings and attracts more users to engage with our private domain operations and driving increased user conversion. Looking ahead, we aim to further strengthen these efforts and build connections with our audience. Timothy, I hope that answers your question.
Conference Operator: Thank you, Jason. Thank you for the questions. One moment for the next questions. Our next question comes from Felix Liu of UBS. Please go ahead.
Jenny, Representative, UBS: Hi, good evening everyone. This is Jenny on behalf of Felix Liu from UBS. So thanks management for taking my question and congrats on strong quarter results. My question is regarding our learning device. So from third party data that shows the device performed well during 11, so could you please elaborate more on the reasons behind the strong sales performance?
And could management provide some updates from both the channel and product side? And management mentioned earlier that you expect a revenue decline in Learning Device in the 4th quarter. Just want to confirm here the decline is year over year or quarter over quarter? Thanks a lot.
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Hi, Felice. This is Alex. Let me take on the so first just on your last point. We expect the Learning Devices revenue to somewhat have a decline quarter over quarter, because the quarter we just had is really the peak e commerce season. So that's a quarter to quarter statement.
Let me come back to the main portion of your question, right. I think our devices business, they've experienced so far year over year and quarter over quarter growth, especially during the e commerce season. And I think this growth is really attributable to the growth and evolution of the industry as a whole. As I mentioned last time, we're seeing more players with great number of capabilities coming into the market and they're driving the continued improvement on the products. If you look at the products today, they're really increasingly being looked by parents as a valuable tool in the at home learning scenario.
And that's a very important part of the entire learning journey. The products have advanced quite a bit compared to even just a few years ago. But still that said, at home learning is still an area where user experience can be continuously improved. So we believe there is a significant market potential for this type of intelligent hardware solutions that combine software and hardware and content to support this at home self learning scenario. So in addition to that overall industry growth, our product expansion and growing product capabilities, they also serve as the 2nd key growth driver, right?
Based on what we've heard from users, we've now launched 3 different types of XPAD learning devices, 1 XPAD this year. They cater to different consumer segments and preferences, different types of learning scenarios, and they offer a different selection of functionality, performance and prices. Our XPADs are currently priced at RMB4000, RMB8000, RMB8000, XBook at just under RMB4000. And if you compare that to the same period last financial year, that time we only offer 1 product. So by expanding our product range, we're meeting the diverse needs of more users, right?
Our focus has always been a lot of it has been on product design, hardware innovation with every new product launch to really ensure that students, children can use the tools efficiently and safely. For example, we equip the XBook with a few unique features that prioritize safety and usability. The XBook comes with an electromagnetic stylus pen and it's really designed with children proof features. If you chew on the pen's tip, there are safety features and it come with 2 different types of NIPS to really provide a very smooth and an actual pen and paper writing type of experience. We placed a three way toggle button at the top of the XBook, so users can quickly switch between study, practice and reading modes.
And this really helps ensure that children can stay focused and fully immersed in each mode. Beyond that, we're continuously integrating artificial intelligence models, our capabilities across all of our smart devices. These devices serve as a great platform for deploying AI features and seamlessly connecting content, AI and user data to really help realize their full potential. So let me share a few specific functional smart devices updates. First, we're constantly updating our intelligent assistant, Xiaoxi, which is integrated across these different types of learning devices.
It now supports continuous topic based dialogue. It provides answers to students' queries, assists with English speaking practice and offers really a supportive companionship across the learning journey. So during the 12 months ended on November 27, 2024, Xiaoxi have been activated a total of 230,000,000 times. Jackson mentioned our homework correction tools. In that same period, they've spotted 75,000,000 of mistakes and corrections.
They performed over 25,000,000 word lookups and provided about 6,000,000 essay corrections. These are big numbers, right? But really these features, they not only support students in learning efficiently at home, but also they really are aimed at easing the burden on parents. Our deepening understanding of users has really empowered us to create personalized learning profiles for children on our learning devices. These profiles that really can help us deliver more targeted support, more targeted, more effective learning plans for each child tailored to that child's need.
Next, just a quick word about content. I mentioned this a few times, content really is critical to these devices and we're committed to long term building up these content. We obviously provide high quality first party content library, which has been accumulated over the years. And we also work actively with 3rd party content providers through partnerships. And together, we aim to create a powerful synergistic content offering to our customers.
Finally, in the Q3 of the fiscal year, as I mentioned, this is traditionally the peak season for e commerce. We've also focused our attention on managing our sales channels and optimizing our marketing strategies. I mean, while we closely monitor our online channels efficiency, we also started exploring offline opportunities to really further expand our customer reach. And back to an earlier point I made, to really provide more touch points and opportunities to have that conversation with customers. So, Phyllis, I hope that answers the question.
Conference Operator: Thank you for the questions. One moment for the next question. Our next question comes from Candice Chen from Daiwa. Please go ahead.
Alice Tsai, Analyst, Citi: Hi, Alex and Justin. Thank you for taking my question. Regarding this quarter, the 50% top line growth, can you shed more light on the revenue growth from various business lines? And also some comments for the following quarters would be great. Thank you.
Jackson Ding, Deputy Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: Kenneth, thanks for the question. This is Jackson. Let me take this one. We have 2 main business lines, Learning Services and Others and Content Solutions. The revenue generated from both business lines in this quarter experienced year over year growth.
And if we look at the 1st 9 months of fiscal 2025, the mix between these two business lines remained largely stable year over year, I mean, when you compare to the same period last year. Now for Peio enrichment small class programs and for smart learning devices, those 2 are the largest revenue contributors and key revenue growth drivers for Learning Services and Content Solutions, respectively. We remain dedicated to delivering high quality enrichment learning services, advanced hardware and engaging content to more users. Smart Learning Devices revenue was up this quarter during the e commerce peak season. The contributing factors were already covered by Alex earlier, so I won't repeat that again.
As for Peiall enrichment small class learning, in recent quarters, we have observed year over year growth in this business. We've already covered the particulars of this business. But as far as our growth drivers, including market demand, our service quality and our capability to recruit and train lecturers. As long as these are still in play, we expect growth in this business line to continue. That said, Candace, you asked about long term trend.
We do expect Payo Enrichment's long term growth rate to gradually taper off going forward as we're comparing to higher base numbers than a couple of years ago.
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: From a broader
Jackson Ding, Deputy Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: perspective, we believe company's growth and development are fundamentally tied to the value it creates, both for its users and for its society and for the society. This principle is embedded in every aspect of our business, large and small. At both the company and industry levels, we view revenue growth as a direct outcome of improved innovation, product capabilities, organizational efficiency and operational effectiveness. So I hope that answers your question, Dennis.
Conference Operator: Thank you for the questions. Our last question comes from the line of Liping Chao from CICC. Please go ahead.
Alice Tsai, Analyst, Citi: Good evening, Alex and Jackson. Thanks for taking my question. I noticed the company is currently at a breakeven level in terms of profits. Could you provide some insights into the bottom line please, and they plan to improve margins moving forward? Thank you.
Jackson Ding, Deputy Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: This is Jackson and thanks for the question, Yiping. It's a good question and a complicated one. We have developed multiple business lines around enrichment learning, around technology powered smart learning solutions. Each business is at a different stage with its own sets of priorities and parameters. For instance, in the learning device business, we are still exploring and validating user value.
Our priority there is to closely track user feedback, net promoter score and engagement. Although our learning device business is still operating at a loss, it remains a key long term strategic initiative. We will continue investing in this area, launching new products, building content, crafting AI driven experiences and iterating on a regular basis. On the other hand, our Peiyou Small Class Enrichment Learning business is more mature with a relatively stable profit margin. The company's overall margin is influenced by the mix of its different business lines.
So it's a little hard to generalize. Going forward, we will continue to prioritize innovation and investment in business lines with high long term strategic value. By combining technology and learning, we aim to develop and enhance the experience for our users. This requires us to commit to continuous innovation. The challenge and opportunity for us is realizing this mission, while balancing growth and efficiency.
So some of our early stage businesses will continue to operate at a loss for a while as we focus on user experience. We believe this allows us to expand our current operations while building a solid foundation for long term competitiveness. This will also enable us to be well positioned to capture the market opportunities and deliver long term value. However, from a group perspective, we will continue to proactively address this challenge and opportunity by closely monitoring the efficiency metrics in all business factors and make timely adjustments to optimize various factors in our operations, including content generations, product R and D, sales and marketing and more. Liping, I hope that answers your question.
Alice Tsai, Analyst, Citi: You've got it. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Thank you for the questions. That concludes the Q and A session. I would like to hand the call back to the management for closing.
Alex Peng, President and Chief Financial Officer, TAO Education Group: So again, thanks to everybody for joining us today. And we bet everybody an early Happy Chinese New Year. And we'll see you next quarter. Bye bye.
Conference Operator: That does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.
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